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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm For those who support any asylum seekers from the Middle East
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #1 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:10pm Absolutely not. Beheadings and brutal rapes, sure, but lying? Thats a bridge too far.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139235 Gender:	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #2 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm Maqqa's having a bad day. First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS. I look forward to tomorrow's installment.
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Sun Tzu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1148 Gender:	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #3 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:05pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm: For those who support any asylum seekers from the Middle East If you were Maqqa would you not lie?
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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #4 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:31pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm: For those who support any asylum seekers from the Middle East Of course they will lie, but it's not like stopping refugees will stop them. They can use local resources, or people on business trips. It's been done far more often than asylum seekers.
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Reply #5 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:40pm

Kytro wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm:

For those who support any asylum seekers from the Middle East

Of course they will lie, but it's not like stopping refugees will stop them. They can use local resources, or people on business trips. It's been done far more often than asylum seekers.

Terrorism and suicide bombing is not a "button" you push to stop or reset

Refugee intake is an entry point of many entry points

Stopping refugee closes this door

People on business trips requires Passports and VISAs that can be checked. ISIS has a passport printing machine that can issue Syrian passports. So why accept any Syrians at all?

People on business have a travel history on their passport that can be verified

Bottom line is to make sure most of our doors are closed so we can focus resources on doors that are still open

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Reply #6 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Maqqa's having a bad day.

First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS.

I look forward to tomorrow's installment.

If you have a system that tells the difference between ISIS and an asylum seeker - Merkel wants to hear from you

They accepted 1.3M Syrians - I reckon you can charge 50 thousand Euros per Syrian and they'd pay it doubt if it works

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #7 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm ISIS is full of the worst criminal scum on this planet. Nothing is beyond them.
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Reply #8 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:17pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Kytro wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm:

For those who support any asylum seekers from the Middle East

Of course they will lie, but it's not like stopping refugees will stop them. They can use local resources, or people on business trips. It's been done far more often than asylum seekers.

Terrorism and suicide bombing is not a "button" you push to stop or reset

Refugee intake is an entry point of many entry points

Stopping refugee closes this door

People on business trips requires Passports and VISAs that can be checked. ISIS has a passport printing machine that can issue Syrian passports. So why accept any Syrians at all?

People on business have a travel history on their passport that can be verified

Bottom line is to make sure most of our doors are closed so we can focus resources on doors that are still open

Each door you close has associated costs. Humanitarian, financial and political. The government isn't closing them because it's not worth those cost vs the risk.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49397 At my desk.	Re: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goal? Reply #9 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm: Maqqa's having a bad day. First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS. I can't either. Can you?
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Reply #10 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:27pm

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Maqqa's having a bad day.

First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS.

I can't either. Can you?

That is so piss weak FD. A white man is a bad guy. I am a white man. Therefore I am a bad guy.

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Reply #11 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:34pm

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Maqqa's having a bad day.

First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS.

I can't either. Can you?

Yes, I most certainly can.

If you need lessons, I'm here to help.

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Reply #12 - Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:49pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Maqqa's having a bad day.

First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS.

I can't either. Can you?

That is so piss weak FD. A white man is a bad guy. I am a white man. Therefore I am a bad guy.

Oh, FD’s ethical sensibilities are a little clouded when it comes to.the Muselman.

If you were FD, would you support porkies to achieve your goal?

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Reply #13 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 12:22pm

Kytro wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Each door you close has associated costs. Humanitarian, financial and political. The government isn't closing them because it's not worth those cost vs the risk.

Priorities

(1) The HUMANITARIAN cost vs AUSTRALIAN costs - I choose to preserve Australia every time
(2) The financial cost of NOT allowing them in is less
(3) Political cost is manageable

Cost is much lower than Risk

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Reply #14 - Jan 13^th, 2016 at 12:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Maqqa's having a bad day.

First he was exposed for his undying support of cowards who bash women, and now he can't tell the difference between an asylum seeker and ISIS.

I can't either. Can you?

Yes, I most certainly can.

If you need lessons, I'm here to help.

Go on then.

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Question: If you're ISIS would you lie to achieve your goals
Yes - anything goes 4 (100.0%) No - ISIS would never lie 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 4 « Created by: Maqqa on: Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:46pm »