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Reply #30 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:20pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Really can't see where this is going but the world doesn't have worry about Christianity trying to blow it up.



really? except for those bombing civilians in the middle east ...  Cheesy Cheesy

Opps, I forgot, we aren't counting those bombs in this discussion, are we?
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Reply #31 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:25pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
I doubt in 2010 Dawkins saw a Christian revival in the West, even if he thought it the better choice of religion. The reason Christianity is preferable to Islam is because it has had its teeth pulled out, by the parliaments, education and logic. That is not going to happen in Islam; they are simply not interested in progress. It is Mohammed and the Koran, or nothing.


an interesting if utterly incorrect statement. Christianity isnt a religion of peace for any other reason that that its Founder was a Man of Peace. Islam was founded by a brutal man of war.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #32 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:50pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
I doubt in 2010 Dawkins saw a Christian revival in the West, even if he thought it the better choice of religion. The reason Christianity is preferable to Islam is because it has had its teeth pulled out, by the parliaments, education and logic. That is not going to happen in Islam; they are simply not interested in progress. It is Mohammed and the Koran, or nothing.


an interesting if utterly incorrect statement. Christianity isnt a religion of peace for any other reason that that its Founder was a Man of Peace. Islam was founded by a brutal man of war.

Yeah, who hated homosexuals and rated women as second class.  His followers are very 'peaceful'.  Onky 30,000 dead frkm gun violence in the US.  Thats peace.

EVERY RELIGION is Ludicrous.
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Disclaimer for Mothra per POST so it is forever acknowledged: Saying 'Islam' or 'Muslims' doesn't mean ALL muslims. This does not target individual muslims who's opinion I am not aware of.
 
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Reply #33 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:07pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
I doubt in 2010 Dawkins saw a Christian revival in the West, even if he thought it the better choice of religion. The reason Christianity is preferable to Islam is because it has had its teeth pulled out, by the parliaments, education and logic. That is not going to happen in Islam; they are simply not interested in progress. It is Mohammed and the Koran, or nothing.


an interesting if utterly incorrect statement. Christianity isnt a religion of peace for any other reason that that its Founder was a Man of Peace. Islam was founded by a brutal man of war.


No, christians were not always the wusses they are today;

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"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Matthew 10:34



It doesn't matter how righteous you are if you are unable to defend yourself and the christian world has become soft, for those reasons described and more. 

Quote:
"To secure peace, is to prepare for war"
-metallica
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Reply #34 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Christianity isnt a religion of peace for any other reason that that its Founder was a Man of Peace.


He physically attacked people who had a different ideology to him.  Some would describe that today as a terrorist attack, and every sane person would call it assault.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #35 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:58am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
I doubt in 2010 Dawkins saw a Christian revival in the West, even if he thought it the better choice of religion. The reason Christianity is preferable to Islam is because it has had its teeth pulled out, by the parliaments, education and logic. That is not going to happen in Islam; they are simply not interested in progress. It is Mohammed and the Koran, or nothing.


an interesting if utterly incorrect statement. Christianity isnt a religion of peace for any other reason that that its Founder was a Man of Peace. Islam was founded by a brutal man of war.

Yeah, who hated homosexuals and rated women as second class.  His followers are very 'peaceful'.  Onky 30,000 dead frkm gun violence in the US.  Thats peace.

EVERY RELIGION is Ludicrous.


Jesus was THE great liberator of women. if you had any historical context you would know that.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #36 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm
 
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world. If it was left to the Christians, we would still be burning witches at the stake.
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Reply #37 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world. If it was left to the Christians, we would still be burning witches at the stake.



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True.

Then again, if it was left up to Sir Booby we'd still be burning witches at the stake and hanging people in the streets.
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Reply #38 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:59pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:
Jesus was THE great liberator of women. if you had any historical context you would know that.


Er, no.  Not even close.

Not that that was uncommon for the time period he was supposed to have lived, women historically have almost always been treated as second class, including by the Christian church.  Even today in many popular sects, women are prohibited from performing certain roles, purely based on their gender.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world.


I heard an insane speech from a U.S pastor a month or so ago, on why gay people should be executed.  Not some random small guy either.


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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #39 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:09pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world. If it was left to the Christians, we would still be burning witches at the stake.



would you like to try your hand at an even basic justification for that mindless drivel?  while you are at it, consider that for a thousand years the ONLY schools and universities were run by the Church.  And all that art and music we still enjoy? virtually all of it came out of the Church.


you write drivel...
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #40 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:59pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:58am:
Jesus was THE great liberator of women. if you had any historical context you would know that.


Er, no.  Not even close.

Not that that was uncommon for the time period he was supposed to have lived, women historically have almost always been treated as second class, including by the Christian church.  Even today in many popular sects, women are prohibited from performing certain roles, purely based on their gender.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world.


I heard an insane speech from a U.S pastor a month or so ago, on why gay people should be executed.  Not some random small guy either.




more drivel.  Samaritan Woman?  woman caught in adultery?  remember that at the time, women were not considered to even posess a soul. Jesus preached to WOMEN.

you dont know much, do you?
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #41 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:09pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
I should have added that Christian God Freaks are not interested in progress either, except when it is forced down their throats by the secular world. If it was left to the Christians, we would still be burning witches at the stake.



would you like to try your hand at an even basic justification for that mindless drivel?  while you are at it, consider that for a thousand years the ONLY schools and universities were run by the Church.  And all that art and music we still enjoy? virtually all of it came out of the Church.


you write drivel...


I can't see why you guys are at each others' throats when you are both right.
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Reply #42 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 2:43pm:
This bloke's got my attention as an atheist:

In a text that is coursing about on social media, professional God-slayer Richard Dawkins begrudgingly admitted that Christianity may actually be our best defense against aberrant forms of religion that threaten the world.
“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,” Dawkins said. “I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death.”
In a rare moment of candor, Dawkins reluctantly accepted that the teachings of Jesus Christ do not lead to a world of terror, whereas followers of radical Islam perpetrate the very atrocities that he laments.

Because of this realization, Dawkins wondered aloud whether Christianity might indeed offer an antidote to protect western civilization against jihad.
“I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse,” he said.
Dawkins

Although the text originated in 2010, it has taken on a second life, being sent to and fro on Facebook and Twitter and providing fodder for discussions, even among atheists, of the benefits of Christianity for modern society.

Dawkins was trained as an evolutionary biologist, but achieved his greatest celebrity not through biology but through his pop atheism, regularly debating theists in public and penning diatribes against God and faith.
For a generation of young atheists, Dawkins gave disbelief a thin veneer of intellectual cachet and offered a justification for the belief that atheism was somehow grounded in science.

In his 2006 bestseller, The God Delusion, Dawkins famously compared religious education to the sexual abuse of children, concluding incredibly that the latter was actually preferable to the former.

Referring to the clerical sex abuse crisis, Dawkins wrote that as “horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place.”

Faced with the suicide bombers and child rapists of radical Islam, however, Dawkins finally found something that he thought was worse.
Follow Thomas D. Williams on Twitter @tdwilliamsrome

(Breitbart)


Appears more to be an analist than an atheist. Perhaps he is a constipated christian soldier.
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Reply #43 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:00pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
remember that at the time, women were not considered to even posess a soul.


I have no idea where you got that from.  I've never heard such a thing.  Please post where you got that idea from, or which culture it comes from.

I'm not arguing that Jesus was bad at teaching women compared to his time, but to act that a religion that in it's core scripture specifically discriminates against women is some kind of bastion of womens liberation is incorrect. 

You do recognise that the Bible specifically discriminates against females correct?
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Reply #44 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:15pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:00pm:
You do recognise that the Bible specifically discriminates against females correct?



I don't. 

A good man and a good woman are different things, reached by travelling different paths. 

Life is not a zero sum game - choosing one path doesn't mean a person choosing another path is hard done by.  There doesn't need to be a victim in every situation.
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