Australian Politics Forum - GST & Tax Cuts

stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: GST & Tax Cuts Reply #30 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.
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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #31 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:46pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

As we all know some of the state premiers are pushing for a increase in the GST to 15% and the Federal Government has said that they we give us a tax cut so no one will be worst off.

No that is incorrect - almost everyone will be much worse off, they promise tax cuts so that the worst off will not be worse off, everyone else will.

Depends upon whether you think getting more or improved public services is being worse off or not?

How many posts are started by resident leftists whinging about cuts to government spending and services? Swags. That's how many.... Cheesy

Now here's your chance to get more spending and more BSPSs.

I don't see how increasing taxes to replace the $80 Billion the Liberals took out of Health and education will provide any new service - all it will do is to help prevent the loss of more services.

Say again? You don't see how giving the states more money for services won't provide more services?

They are not really getting more money just replacing the money they lost in the previous federal budget.

The government are double dipping on our tax dollars, we already paid for it once and now they want us to pay for it again.

And this is a perfect example of why no one will ever listen to you on tax policy. All you ever do is criticise a Liberal policy no matter what.

It does seem that under this government a lot of policy needs to be criticised. Maybe the Liberals should find a better government ?

Maybe Try Tony Abbotts suggestion to start good government, sometime soon would be an idea ?

Did you think that drivel was a potent argument? Given that the economy is improving in globally difficult circumstances would indicate they are doing a good job with good policies. Not every policy's worth is determined by you personal hip-pocket nerve.

Do you feel that making random unsupportable statements has any impact on anyone ?

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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #32 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:48pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

As we all know some of the state premiers are pushing for a increase in the GST to 15% and the Federal Government has said that they we give us a tax cut so no one will be worst off.

No that is incorrect - almost everyone will be much worse off, they promise tax cuts so that the worst off will not be worse off, everyone else will.

Depends upon whether you think getting more or improved public services is being worse off or not?

How many posts are started by resident leftists whinging about cuts to government spending and services? Swags. That's how many.... Cheesy

Now here's your chance to get more spending and more BSPSs.

I don't see how increasing taxes to replace the $80 Billion the Liberals took out of Health and education will provide any new service - all it will do is to help prevent the loss of more services.

Say again? You don't see how giving the states more money for services won't provide more services?

They are not really getting more money just replacing the money they lost in the previous federal budget.

The government are double dipping on our tax dollars, we already paid for it once and now they want us to pay for it again.

And this is a perfect example of why no one will ever listen to you on tax policy. All you ever do is criticise a Liberal policy no matter what.

perfect example of why no one will ever listen to you on tax policy

Your confused Maria - this is Longy's line to be talking for everyone else.

You are not really coming on board with the policy of taxing our way to prosperity are you.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47898 Gender:	Re: GST & Tax Cuts Reply #33 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 10:31pm Why is Longy wearing a skirt again today?
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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #34 - Jan 17^th, 2016 at 1:06am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

As we all know some of the state premiers are pushing for a increase in the GST to 15% and the Federal Government has said that they we give us a tax cut so no one will be worst off.

No that is incorrect - almost everyone will be much worse off, they promise tax cuts so that the worst off will not be worse off, everyone else will.

Depends upon whether you think getting more or improved public services is being worse off or not?

How many posts are started by resident leftists whinging about cuts to government spending and services? Swags. That's how many.... Cheesy

Now here's your chance to get more spending and more BSPSs.

I don't see how increasing taxes to replace the $80 Billion the Liberals took out of Health and education will provide any new service - all it will do is to help prevent the loss of more services.

Say again? You don't see how giving the states more money for services won't provide more services?

They are not really getting more money just replacing the money they lost in the previous federal budget.

The government are double dipping on our tax dollars, we already paid for it once and now they want us to pay for it again.

And this is a perfect example of why no one will ever listen to you on tax policy. All you ever do is criticise a Liberal policy no matter what.

It does seem that under this government a lot of policy needs to be criticised. Maybe the Liberals should find a better government ?

Maybe Try Tony Abbotts suggestion to start good government, sometime soon would be an idea ?

Did you think that drivel was a potent argument? Given that the economy is improving in globally difficult circumstances would indicate they are doing a good job with good policies. Not every policy's worth is determined by you personal hip-pocket nerve.

Do you feel that making random unsupportable statements has any impact on anyone ?

I thought that most of the 'good' policies of this government were blocked by the Senate... so it must be the re-designed budgetary measures caused by the Senate that are causing any 'improvement' in an economy that continues to endure over 6% fully unemployed plus times two under-employed and looking for something better.... something of value in the country that will soon be calling on all those young men to fight.....

Can't have it both ways, righties - either the government is struggling because it can't get its policies through, or the Senate is forcing the government to work well despite itself..... sorry 'bout that....

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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #35 - Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

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Reply #36 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

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Reply #37 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Reply #38 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:46pm

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

You are the troll who claims the 36 Faceless Men incident is 'unproven'.

It makes you look like a prize fool to say that.

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Reply #39 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

You are the troll who claims the 36 Faceless Men incident is 'unproven'.

It makes you look like a prize fool to say that.

Those LABOR PARTY delegates?

Let's say that we forbid Maria from attending a caucus even if she is elected to it by her beloved Libs..... Tony Abbott can't participate because he has business ventures..... Turnbull likewise..... Credlin's hubby is banned since he's not elected..... that's the same as saying that someone isn't entitled to be a PARTY delegate because they are a Union man...

No sense at all - but that's our Mania...

Easy pickings............... this is the 'talent' of the Right shown here in public......

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“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #40 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:58am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

You are the troll who claims the 36 Faceless Men incident is 'unproven'.

It makes you look like a prize fool to say that.

Are you talking about the Liberals 1963 election stunt ?

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Re: GST & Tax Cuts
Reply #41 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:41am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

You are the troll who claims the 36 Faceless Men incident is 'unproven'.

It makes you look like a prize fool to say that.

Are you talking about the Liberals 1963 election stunt ?

that was the one! Grin

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Reply #42 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:51am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:10am:

Bam wrote on Jan 17^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

stunspore wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Here's an idea. If the Feds are so happy to take up less money via tax cuts, how about passing those "cuts" to the states instead? Say they did a 3% cut, instead, they forgo 3% and pass it to the states.

That would be sensible. It's also something we're not likely to see under this government. They seem to want to force a GST increase one way or another, with some of the money then used to shift the tax burden from businesses onto consumers.

So says the poster who wishes to claim that established facts regarding the ALP and unions are 'unproven'

Go back under your bridge, troll. Serve your forum ban and stop posting with sock accounts.

You are the troll who claims the 36 Faceless Men incident is 'unproven'.

It makes you look like a prize fool to say that.

Those LABOR PARTY delegates?

Let's say that we forbid Maria from attending a caucus even if she is elected to it by her beloved Libs..... Tony Abbott can't participate because he has business ventures..... Turnbull likewise..... Credlin's hubby is banned since he's not elected..... that's the same as saying that someone isn't entitled to be a PARTY delegate because they are a Union man...

No sense at all - but that's our Mania...

Easy pickings............... this is the 'talent' of the Right shown here in public......

http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/These+comments+are+the+definition+of+f...

That horse is still twitching , flog him some more.

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