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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #255 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:36pm
 
You forgot this one, JS. Mind you, it was addressed to moi.

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
Don't you think it's odd for someone who professes to care nothing for women's rights to get all defensive over other people apparently dedicating too many threads to the issue and misinterpreting evidence relevant to women's rights?

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #256 - Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:44pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:25pm:
FD,
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would you turn into an apologist for the vatican if there was as much criticism of them?


The Catholics & now the Anglicans:

We should start a thread about all the butt slamming in the Anglican church.


That's spineless apologism, Bobbie. You need to start a thread on butt slamming Muslims.

FD's just professed to care nothing for those butt-slammed by Anglicans. You're an apologist for even bringing it up.

Try Muslim underage marriage in Sydney instead.




I'm fed up with religion in general  -

if it's not Mussies beheading someone -

it's Christians butt slamming little kids.


Just stick to the Muslims, Bobbie. You don't want to end up in FD's hall-of-shame thread.




All those religious freaks claim to be holier than thou yet

they perform the worst atrocities in human history.

Religion to me means hypocrisy.
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #257 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am
 
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It's unfair to all of us on Ozpolitic.


How so?

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Do you think  DRAH has a slight obsession?


He is very interested in the NBN

John Smith wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
I thought your objection was the number of threads rather than the content


you thought wrong

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Can you quote one of these lies?


what is it with you and repeating the same questions over and over again?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Is it not your intention either reduce the number of threads about Islam that I participate in


not at all, I'd settle for honesty

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
or get me to participate in an equal number of threads about voting rights in the vatican


again with this equal rubbish? is it really that difficult for you?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
How will you know when you have achieved this lofty goal?


I'll be dead of old age before then so I guess I won't know

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Can you confirm that it is Islam in particular you are sensitive to criticism of?


what is it with you and repeating the same questions over and over again?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
How do you know I have never started such a thread, if you are not keeping count?


I've never seen any .... no counting necessary

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Yes you have John.


ok, i said it. When will you start?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Would you agree that this is one of the more stupid things you have posted in this thread?


Why? you claim your issue is womens right? were you lying?freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Do you want this because you are so sensitive about criticism of Islam,


what is it with you and repeating the same questions over and over again?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
or because you want to see lots of criticism about the vatican?


what is it with you and repeating the same questions over and over again?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
If you consider so many threads about Islam to be unfair


who said that?

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
would you turn into an apologist for the vatican if there was as much criticism of them?


like you?



This doesn't make sense John. What do you actually care about? Why are you so sensitive to criticism of Islam?

So far every answer you have given has been wrong. You do not appear to understand your own thoughts even. You said you would be happy if I started an equal number of threads about the vatican. Now you have taken it back. Though it would be interesting to conduct the experiment and see if you did turn into an apologist for Catholicism. You accused me of spreading crap about Islam, but cannot provide one decent example of what you object to me saying. You said I had not started a single other thread about women's rights, without basis. The only thing you are consistent on is not caring about the victims of Islam, while complaining about me 'having a go' at Islam somehow.

Does your apparent focus on the 'here and now' indicate a completely reactive basis to any opinion your form? Do you feel compelled to defend Islam for some reason? Or are you trying to get back at the Catholics for something you cannot talk about?
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #258 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:15am
 
are you just going to keep repeating the same questions over and over FD? Is this some sort of tactic of yours? I've answered all those questions already.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
Now you have taken it back



no i haven't .. i made a general statement about the threads you start against Islam. I thought you could use some common sense to work out what was to be taken literally and what wasn't.  No one expects anyone to count threads except for you. Now you are focusing on this 'counting threads' to, I assume, avoid having to deal with anything else.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
, without basis.


really? without basis? I haven't seen you start any thread of womens issue except as a shot at Islam. That is my basis.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
The only thing you are consistent on is not caring about the victims of Islam,


now you've resorting to making things up?

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
while complaining about me 'having a go' at Islam somehow.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes it's gets tiring having to repeat myself constantly ... surely you could go back and read the previous comments if your memory is that bad?

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
Does your apparent focus on the 'here and now' indicate a completely reactive basis to any opinion your form?


really?  Roll Eyes

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
Do you feel compelled to defend Islam for some reason?


no
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
Or are you trying to get back at the Catholics for something you cannot talk about?


Grin Grin Grin yeah ... that must be it ........... you should wear a hat while fishing FD, the suns frying your brains.
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #259 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:23am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:54am:
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It's unfair to all of us on Ozpolitic.


How so?




It's just wasting space with repeated topics.
In order to participate you have to keep repeating what's been posted before.
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #260 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am
 
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It's just wasting space with repeated topics.


What space is being wasted?

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In order to participate you have to keep repeating what's been posted before.


Not sure what you mean by this.

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no i haven't .. i made a general statement about the threads you start against Islam. I thought you could use some common sense to work out what was to be taken literally and what wasn't.  No one expects anyone to count threads except for you. Now you are focusing on this 'counting threads' to, I assume, avoid having to deal with anything else.


So the number of threads genuinely is your metric of fairness (even without counting them if your estimate is wildly inaccurate)?

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really? without basis? I haven't seen you start any thread of womens issue except as a shot at Islam. That is my basis.


So you honestly believe that things do not exist until you see them?

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now you've resorting to making things up?


Which victims do you care about? You have made it clear you do not care about the millions of women around the world without basic rights and freedoms as a result of Islam.

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yeah ... that must be it ........... you should wear a hat while fishing FD, the suns frying your brains.


Just trying to get you to make sense John, that's all. The excuses you have presented so far for your behaviour just don't add up.
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #261 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:32am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am:
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It's just wasting space with repeated topics.


What space is being wasted?

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In order to participate you have to keep repeating what's been posted before.


Not sure what you mean by this.





FD - so it's OK to spam Ozpolitic with multiple threads on the same topic?

Fair enough - it's your site.


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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #262 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:32am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am:
So the number of threads genuinely is your metric of fairness (even without counting them if your estimate is wildly inaccurate)?



I'd be happy with ANY threads.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am:
So you honestly believe that things do not exist until you see them?


given that I am on this forum more often than you (sad I know), in this case I'm going to say the yes. You could always prove me wrong though.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am:
Which victims do you care about?


lets start with those at home.

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:24am:
The excuses you have presented so far for your behaviour just don't add up


I'm not trying to excuse my behaviour.
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Reply #263 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:22am
 
John do you share Aussies and Brian's view that we have no right to criticise people from other countries and other religions? I can understand someone wanting to focus on the here and now, but that does not explain your objection to people with different interests, or your apparent view that it is somehow unfair to Islam.
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Reply #264 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:03am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:22am:
John do you share Aussies and Brian's view that we have no right to criticise people from other countries and other religions? I can understand someone wanting to focus on the here and now, but that does not explain your objection to people with different interests, or your apparent view that it is somehow unfair to Islam.


you can criticise all you like, just as long as that criticism is based on honesty.
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Reply #265 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:39am
 
So it is honesty that matters, not thread count?
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Reply #266 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:39am:
So it is honesty that matters, not thread count?


yep ... and that includes being honest about your motives too!
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Reply #267 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:53pm
 
What is your motivation here John?
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #268 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:22am:
John do you share Aussies and Brian's view that we have no right to criticise people from other countries and other religions? I can understand someone wanting to focus on the here and now, but that does not explain your objection to people with different interests, or your apparent view that it is somehow unfair to Islam.


you can criticise all you like, just as long as that criticism is based on honesty.


Not according to FD. He believes honesty doesn’t count when you’re criticizing Muslims.

Ask him if you like.

If you want to know FD’s motivation, that’s it in a nutshell.
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Reply #269 - Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:00pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 11:58am:
Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 11:14am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
you might have a point, except that we've been over there telling them how to live in some way shape or form for the last 100 years ... now you complain when they come here and repay the favour?

What we have been telling them over there is not to kill and torture each other. 

But it seems too much to ask, it is seen as interfering with their cultural and religious norms.




That’s right, old boy. You’ve already ruled the CIA training of the Shah’s SAVAK death squad out of order. Presumaby, you’d apply the same principles to Mubarak’s CIA-run torture cells, or the US military training of Saddam’s Republican Guards, or the current military training of the Saudi Army.

Always absolutely never ever, no?


Funny how the CIA is always to blame for the horrors that Muslims inflict on each other as well as on the infidels.


You think it's funny that the US is to blame for training all these regimes? 

No, PB. What is funny is that Muslims blame the CIA and the infidels when they, the Muslims, behave badly but they credit Islam when they are playing nicely.

That's what's funny.   And that they - and their boosters like you - think that nobody notices the massive contradiction in their self-pitying, self-excusing dishonesty.

They will do anything as long as they do not have to take responsibility for their actions. The moment they took responsibility they would thereby endorse Trump's call to stop all Muslim immigration to the West until we can all figure out what the bloody hell is going on with Muslims.



You've just unloaded a load of bile, old boy. It doesn't actually mean anything.

Feel free to address Uncle's active support for "Muslims behaving badly". As we've seen, those "Muslims" are either trained friends of Uncle, or those fighting against them. You don't deny this. You can't.

Who takes responsibility for Uncle's actions, dear boy?

On that point, I'm most curious.



Give them self-determination and democracy - they will massacre each other.  Give them a tribal strong man with the iron heel - they behave. What's in America's and the West's interest? Muslims to openly murder each other across the globe or be kept in check by bastards who will keep the lid on them?

If they cannot be trusted with freedom, oppress the bastards.  Remember - they are NOT like us.  Very important point, don't forget it.





DO you have a better offer, PB?





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