Quote:FD I've already offered you the devil's advocate line: assume its the most unreasonable thing in the world if you like - and I'll repeat the question I asked before - does such unreasonableness from the Iranians justify an outside power dismantling their democracy and installing decades of brutal dictatorship?
What was wrong with my previous answer to this question?
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4
th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Soren wrote on Feb 3
rd, 2016 at 9:20pm:
Was the Iranian oil industry developed by the Iranians - or was it done by US and UK capital? The latter. Did the Iranian parliamentary democrats propose a fair compensation for that investment? No. So 'cannot be trusted with freedom' is correct.
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Nonetheless, you even got this absurd argument wrong - Mosaddegh was only too willing to negotiate a compensation deal for Britain:
Quote:Mohammad Mosaddegh attempted to negotiate with the AIOC, but the company rejected his proposed compromise. Mosaddegh's plan, based on the 1948 compromise between the Venezuelan Government of Romulo Gallegos and Creole Petroleum,[49] would divide the profits from oil 50/50 between Iran and Britain. Against the recommendation of the United States, Britain refused this proposal and began planning to undermine and overthrow the Iranian government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Oil_nationalizatio...Iran appealed for negotiations until the very end, but it was Britain who was set on only one path from the very beginning: overthrow. Even Uncle thought Britain was being unreasonable - fancy that eh
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 8:20am:
In the case of Iran, do you think offering 50% of the oil profits to Britain was a fair proposal?
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 8:35am:
You didn't answer the question S - was 50% of the profits a fair proposal? Should the British have sat down for negotiations with a willing partner
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 9:38am:
The point is though, we had an offer of compensation didn't we?
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 9:38am:
Were the British wrong to not even want to discuss this?
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 9:38am:
Given this new line of questioning, are you now open to the possibility that there was a reasonable compensation offered by the Iranians
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6
th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Does it make any difference if the reneging nation offers compensatory measures - say like offering 50% of the profits?
This is something you introduced Gandalf, over and over again. You asked the exact question of Soren that you now refuse to answer yourself. You then accused Soren of not answering. The above are merely the examples from this thread. Why do you suddenly not want to talk about it? Would you consider that a reasonable offer? Would you consider it reasonable to renegotiate under those circumstances? For a long time now you have been pretending that it is.
What else have you been making up about Iran?
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