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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #60 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:

[quote author=helian link=1453237432/41#41 date=1453589821]
That doesn't explain why none of the men, who are not writing, don't think to give up their seat.

how do you know the women are the PA's or secretaries of the various men sitting? Does your boss sit on the floor while his PA takes his chair?

Yes... Or maybe they're not real women... Maybe they're blowup (pardon the pun) dolls set there to equalise gender representation.... Or maybe they are ghosts that no one saw and only the camera picked them up.... We could keep going...

Or maybe (like the Orthodox Jews who had Hillary Clinton photoshopped out of that picture when they killed Osama bin Ladin ) women are not equal to men in their society and it is important in such a society that women should not only be subservient, they should be seen to be subservient.

so it's settled then, you don't know what the real reasons are?

No, I'm certain...They're obviously aliens beamed down for the nanosecond it took to impress their image on the film.

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

in the end, you'll believe what you want to believe.

As will you.

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

It has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.

How do you know that?

Btw.... Men in patriarchal societies are not ashamed of their womens' subservience...

They don't ask for western apologists' reinterpretation of these kind of images.

They have never known any different.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74667 Gender:	Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand Reply #61 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm: Would you count Muhammed as one of the worst of Muslims? Don't know ... I don't try and rate them. We've had butchers throughout history. Do you think bombing or strafing civilians is any better than decapitating them?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74667 Gender:	Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand Reply #62 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:09pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm: How do you know that? because you haven't explained what the woman sitting in the chair was doing?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand Reply #63 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:09pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm: How do you know that? because you haven't explained what the woman sitting in the chair was doing? I gave you a few reasons. But you're certain... Aren't you?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74667 Gender:	Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand Reply #64 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm: I gave you a few reasons. no you haven't ... or if you have I can't see it ... what post number was your reason?
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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #65 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

Would you count Muhammed as one of the worst of Muslims?

Don't know ... I don't try and rate them. We've had butchers throughout history. Do you think bombing or strafing civilians is any better than decapitating them?

Should people be judged based on their beliefs? If someone holds up Hitler as the eternal righteous example for all mankind to follow, should they be judged for those views? Why should Muslims be any different?

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #67 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:17pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

I gave you a few reasons.

no you haven't ... or if you have I can't see it ...

Subservience
Blowup dolls
Ghosts
Aliens

thats why the woman was sitting in the chair in the front of the photo?

Say no more.

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #68 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

I gave you a few reasons.

no you haven't ... or if you have I can't see it ...

Subservience
Blowup dolls
Ghosts
Aliens

thats why the woman was sitting in the chair in the front of the photo?

Say no more.

It's multichoice.

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #69 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:22pm

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

Would you count Muhammed as one of the worst of Muslims?

Don't know ... I don't try and rate them. We've had butchers throughout history. Do you think bombing or strafing civilians is any better than decapitating them?

Should people be judged based on their beliefs? If someone holds up Hitler as the eternal righteous example for all mankind to follow, should they be judged for those views? Why should Muslims be any different?

No ... people should be judged on their actions. If we judged people because of their beliefs, we'd still be burning witches. People do follow hitler, are they banned from attending public places? Do we ask that they be deported? Do we jail them for their beliefs? Do we bomb them?

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #70 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:23pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

I gave you a few reasons.

no you haven't ... or if you have I can't see it ...

Subservience
Blowup dolls
Ghosts
Aliens

thats why the woman was sitting in the chair in the front of the photo?

Say no more.

It's multichoice.

no, it's your white flag .... and you didn't eve realise you were waving it! Cheesy

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #71 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:23pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

I gave you a few reasons.

no you haven't ... or if you have I can't see it ...

Subservience
Blowup dolls
Ghosts
Aliens

thats why the woman was sitting in the chair in the front of the photo?

Say no more.

It's multichoice.

no, it's your white flag .... and you didn't eve realise you were waving it! Cheesy

And here's me thinking it's only Yanks who don't get irony!!

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #72 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

Would you count Muhammed as one of the worst of Muslims?

Don't know ... I don't try and rate them. We've had butchers throughout history. Do you think bombing or strafing civilians is any better than decapitating them?

Should people be judged based on their beliefs? If someone holds up Hitler as the eternal righteous example for all mankind to follow, should they be judged for those views? Why should Muslims be any different?

No ... people should be judged on their actions. If we judged people because of their beliefs, we'd still be burning witches. People do follow hitler, are they banned from attending public places? Do we ask that they be deported? Do we jail them for their beliefs? Do we bomb them?

I am not asking whether we should burn them. Or ban them. Or deport them. Or jail them. Or bomb them. I am asking whether people should be judged on their beliefs. I was hoping that the Nazi reference might make you realise the absurdity of the position you are pushing, but apparently not.

If there were Nazis on this forum telling everyone how wonderful Hitler was, and everyone was ganging up on them and giving them a hard time (perhaps even judging them), would you still be on the apologist bandwagon?

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #73 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:47pm

freediver wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

If there were Nazis on this forum telling everyone how wonderful Hitler was, and everyone was ganging up on them and giving them a hard time (perhaps even judging them), would you still be on the apologist bandwagon?

pointing out the fallicy or your argument does not mean I'm on any 'apologists bandwagon'. You didn't answer my questions. Here, I'll try again

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

why don't you treat Christians based on what the worst Christians do?

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

Do you think bombing or strafing civilians is any better than decapitating them?

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Re: The boy accused of blasphemy who cut off his hand
Reply #74 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

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why don't you treat Christians based on what the worst Christians do?

Because I don't treat other people the same way either. Do you see me accusing Gandalf of being a terrorist?

Now it's your turn. Should we judge people on what they believe? Before you get all carried away, I am not asking whether we should burn, ban, deport, jail or bomb them.

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