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Reply #15 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:40am

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

you dont think latham is a misogynist then?? Roll Eyes

but Tony is for wearing a blue tie..

What the hell are you talking about?

I just said, "He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure."

Do you understand what 'par' means?

Of course Latham is a misogynist.

And a fool.

He's almost as bad as Abbott.

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Reply #16 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:40am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

you dont think latham is a misogynist then?? Roll Eyes

but Tony is for wearing a blue tie..

What the hell are you talking about?

I just said, "He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure."

Do you understand what 'par' means?

Of course Latham is a misogynist.

And a fool.

He's almost as bad as Abbott.

offfffffffff course.......... gweggy says thats so.. your man insults the Australian of the year and Tony wears a blue tie.. I get it..blue ties are bad I agree.

Its very noticeable now how thick laborites
are....extremely thick I think its called..

your kinda lost without your little mate arent you?

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Reply #17 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:57am

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:40am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

you dont think latham is a misogynist then?? Roll Eyes

but Tony is for wearing a blue tie..

What the hell are you talking about?

I just said, "He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure."

Do you understand what 'par' means?

Of course Latham is a misogynist.

And a fool.

He's almost as bad as Abbott.

offfffffffff course.......... gweggy says thats so.. your man insults the Australian of the year ...

Latham is not "my man".

What part of ...

"He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

"Of course Latham is a misogynist.

"And a fool.

"He's almost as bad as Abbott."

... don't you understand?

I've never liked the guy, never supported him, and think that what he did the other day was disgraceful.

I'm at a loss to understand why you think he's "my man".

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Reply #18 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:22pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:04am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 6:33pm:

I for one do not consider the campaign against family violence to be in any way an attack against men as Latham has categorized it....The issue is the lack of resources available to the victims of family violence and the complete failure of our legal system to deal with repeat violent offenders....Latham cannot see the main issue because he is only focused on how things reflect in his closed world!!!

Roll Eyes

However - as long as 'domestic violence' remains trapped in the paradigm "man offender - woman victim" - this issue will never be resolved for the simple reason that exertcising extreme sanctions and violent intrusion by legislation against primarily innocent men will only promote in those men a response to abuse and tyranny directed at them without reason.

Driving to town yesterday to secure temporary premises for the ex and I, I was complaining about how bureaucracy involved was running me around - the ex started in on me with personal attacks over this, saying it was my fault for being so late in coming to the party (the office is open three days for a few hours and you need all your info first), escalating in volume and tone while I was driving on the highway, and continuing on to threats of violence and then violence in the car. This is almost an exact repeat of what caused our break-up four years ago, with the exception that I had, then, just come home from heart surgery and was in immense pain. I've told her for years I do not wish to lead a life of stress and argument.. I'm not well enough to handle that.

Tell me again about how men are the offenders. Frankly, I've never hit a woman who hasn't attacked me first.. or anyone else for that matter.. in my life. I'm a person who retaliates to violence - I do not initiate it.

The system let Rosie Batty down and her son was murdered despite her ex husbands appalling behaviour....I don't give a stuff if it is a deranged woman or man when the warning signs are there the system protects the guilty!!!

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Reply #19 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

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Reply #20 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:55pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:04am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 6:33pm:

I for one do not consider the campaign against family violence to be in any way an attack against men as Latham has categorized it....The issue is the lack of resources available to the victims of family violence and the complete failure of our legal system to deal with repeat violent offenders....Latham cannot see the main issue because he is only focused on how things reflect in his closed world!!!

Roll Eyes

However - as long as 'domestic violence' remains trapped in the paradigm "man offender - woman victim" - this issue will never be resolved for the simple reason that exertcising extreme sanctions and violent intrusion by legislation against primarily innocent men will only promote in those men a response to abuse and tyranny directed at them without reason.

Driving to town yesterday to secure temporary premises for the ex and I, I was complaining about how bureaucracy involved was running me around - the ex started in on me with personal attacks over this, saying it was my fault for being so late in coming to the party (the office is open three days for a few hours and you need all your info first), escalating in volume and tone while I was driving on the highway, and continuing on to threats of violence and then violence in the car. This is almost an exact repeat of what caused our break-up four years ago, with the exception that I had, then, just come home from heart surgery and was in immense pain. I've told her for years I do not wish to lead a life of stress and argument.. I'm not well enough to handle that.

Tell me again about how men are the offenders. Frankly, I've never hit a woman who hasn't attacked me first.. or anyone else for that matter.. in my life. I'm a person who retaliates to violence - I do not initiate it.

The system let Rosie Batty down and her son was murdered despite her ex husbands appalling behaviour....I don't give a stuff if it is a deranged woman or man when the warning signs are there the system protects the guilty!!!

Angry

Hence the need to remove the current paradigm under which this entire issue is discussed and set in force...... we agree - don't bite the hand that sends the message...

Her ex husband was a certified nutter - when you can prevent such things let me know - in the meantime not all men should be tarred with the same brush and abused accordingly. It is, indeed, this abuse current that creates most of the confrontational situations we read about, and if expanded, will lead to a rise in killings.

Is that what you wish? To condemn ten innocent men rather than let one potentially guilty go free? Recipe for trouble.....

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Reply #22 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

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Reply #23 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

OMG you #@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@22222 lying piece of xcrapp he didn't hit anyone,,

Now run of too the mods little one Grin

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Reply #24 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:36pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:00pm:

Let me add, Phil, that in my view the entire reason behind the current 'domestic violence' paradigm is to remove power from men as much as possible and create of them criminals without crime. The reason for this is that men are the one most likely to and most capable of opposing tyranny in government.

What a load of bullshit....AVO's are not worth the paper they are written on and when they are breached people like you call the offenders victims....Poor men smack the crap out of someone and then wonder why they are prevented from having access to their victims....Violence towards anyone is the problem which you fail to accept!!!

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Reply #25 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:20pm

teddybear wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

OMG you #@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@22222 lying piece of xcrapp he didn't hit anyone,,

Now run of too the mods little one Grin

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

It's not the sort of thing you'd condone, is it?

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Reply #26 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

Since when is a wall a uni student? Huh

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Reply #27 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:20pm:

teddybear wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

OMG you #@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@22222 lying piece of xcrapp he didn't hit anyone,,

Now run of too the mods little one Grin

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

It's not the sort of thing you'd condone, is it?

I see how you can get mixed up there. He punched a wall, not a left-wing student. Easy mistake for you to make, as talking to a left-wing student is very much like talking to a brick wall.

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Reply #28 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:47pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

Since when is a wall a uni student? Huh

Lefty students are as thick as a brick so there is a bit of a comparison..... Grin

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Reply #29 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:52pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:29am:

Labor sure can pick a loser, and Latham is the biggest of them all.

He's almost on a par with Abbott, that's for sure.

No, not even close. Abbott has far better manners than that Labor arsewipe. Thank goodness he never got to be our PM. He's our very own Donald Trump - minus the riches.

They're both arsewipes.

Punching female uni students isn't considered good manners, by the way.

Since when is a wall a uni student? Huh

Condoning violence against women?

Not a good look.

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