freediver wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 6:50pm:


We know FD. That idiotic debate has come and gone.

And its even less of a revelation that you have no idea what I argued in that debate.

ya think??? 

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 9:46am:


Hence the concerted campaign to prove Muhammad was a hypocrite and a law unto himself.

As FD says - he's "happy to accept that Muhammed almost certainly had sex with a prepubescent girl" - despite what all the evidence says, and what virtually every muslim actually believes.

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Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

Sorry to see you return to form, FD. But at least get your facts right. The Iranian age of consent is 13.

When will you be defending the chastity of Hindu girls? When will you be championing the rights of Philippino women? 

But more importantly, when will you drop the multi-quote question and answer routine and engage in a reasonable discussion?

I blame Islam. it made you this way.

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That’s exactly what I mean.

You see? You’re getting better already.

As you can see,  the old boy asks the questions here.

It might have been something you mentioned, FD.