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Reply #150 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 6:45am

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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When Muslims use Muhammed's example to maintain this standard, as many do, it is a Muslim issue. It is hard for Muslims to demand that what Muhammed did be considered wrong today, given that they hold him to be the eternal example for all mankind to follow. Do you think it is just a coincidence that this is a major problem across the Muslim world, regardless of the usual indicators for social progress such as wealth?

Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

So - pedophilia is enshrined in law throughout the world?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96194 Gender:	Re: Re: Reply #151 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 8:02am Soren wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 11:36pm: Quote: What is your criticism of Muslims and Islam, PB? Hold forth like usual. Oh, I never criticize, old boy. If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all, that’s my motto. Oppress the bastards.
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Reply #152 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 8:05am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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When Muslims use Muhammed's example to maintain this standard, as many do, it is a Muslim issue. It is hard for Muslims to demand that what Muhammed did be considered wrong today, given that they hold him to be the eternal example for all mankind to follow. Do you think it is just a coincidence that this is a major problem across the Muslim world, regardless of the usual indicators for social progress such as wealth?

Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

So - pedophilia is enshrined in law throughout the world?

Quite the opposite. Children are getting married off despite the law. India has an age of consent of 16.

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Re: Christians worse than Muslims
Reply #153 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 7:31pm

Karnal wrote Reply #142 - Yesterday at 2:08pm:
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I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

Oh how the excuses flow. muslims around the world claim muhammad is the best of all examples for mankind, that he spoke for allah, that his teachings are immutably perfect and unchangeable.

As for India I'd hazard a rough guess that it's primarily Hindu with a real injection of islamic values thrown into the ancient cultural practices of inhumane child (in particular girls) abuse.

Which really goes to show that the opponents of multiculturalism are on the money, other cultures do not have the enlightenment we in the Judaeo-Christian world have.

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This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

Except when the perpetrators are citing their religion (as the muslims do) when they commit their depraved acts of child / girl abuse. I'd also say that Hinduism is right there as a major component of the cause of indian cultural child / girl abuse.

With regard to the Philippines can you give any figures as to how many of the rapes consist of muslims etc. raping christian girls?

I've reason to believe that it's very similar to the European experience, muslims are the rapists pushing the figures through the roof.

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Reply #154 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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When Muslims use Muhammed's example to maintain this standard, as many do, it is a Muslim issue. It is hard for Muslims to demand that what Muhammed did be considered wrong today, given that they hold him to be the eternal example for all mankind to follow. Do you think it is just a coincidence that this is a major problem across the Muslim world, regardless of the usual indicators for social progress such as wealth?

Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

So - pedophilia is enshrined in law throughout the world?

Quite the opposite. Children are getting married off despite the law. India has an age of consent of 16.

Not a policy you pursue with non-Muslim subjects. There you go all critical.

Very Paki.

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Re: Christians worse than Muslims
Reply #155 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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When Muslims use Muhammed's example to maintain this standard, as many do, it is a Muslim issue. It is hard for Muslims to demand that what Muhammed did be considered wrong today, given that they hold him to be the eternal example for all mankind to follow. Do you think it is just a coincidence that this is a major problem across the Muslim world, regardless of the usual indicators for social progress such as wealth?

Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

So - pedophilia is enshrined in law throughout the world?

Quite the opposite. Children are getting married off despite the law. India has an age of consent of 16.

We live in a disgusting world full of pedophiles.

It must be the End Times.

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Re: Christians worse than Muslims
Reply #156 - Feb 12^th, 2016 at 10:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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When Muslims use Muhammed's example to maintain this standard, as many do, it is a Muslim issue. It is hard for Muslims to demand that what Muhammed did be considered wrong today, given that they hold him to be the eternal example for all mankind to follow. Do you think it is just a coincidence that this is a major problem across the Muslim world, regardless of the usual indicators for social progress such as wealth?

Congratulations, FD, this is an answer. A good one too.

I can't see how it's hard for Muslims to claim what Muhammed did would be inappropriate today. Every Muslim I've discussed this with says exactly that - even Abu.

If this is a major problem in the Muslim world, feel free to show us. I've already shown you the that 50% of girls in India are married before the legal age of consent. From memory, 20-odd percent are married under 12.

This is not about religion per se. Women's rights are not universally non-existent in Muslim countries. Women's rights take a low priority in Middle Eastern and Subcontinental countries. The largest Muslim country, Indonesia, compares with other countries in its region on women's issues. The Philippines, a Catholic country, has a much higher number of reported rapes and violent crimes against women.

Religion seems to not have penetrated deeply-entrenched customs and culture surrounding gender. Honour killings are still prevalent in some parts of the world, despite Islamic prohibitions. The richest Muslim countries - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - do indeed treat women abysmally. And you're right, the usual economic indicators do not appear to have changed this.

But Saudi Arabia is not Indonesia. These countries have almost nothing in common when it comes to women's rights.

Still, it's nice to see you joining in a discussion. I hope we get to see more of this.

So - pedophilia is enshrined in law throughout the world?

Quite the opposite. Children are getting married off despite the law. India has an age of consent of 16.

We live in a disgusting world full of pedophiles.

It must be the End Times.

Arse-covering and yeah-but-no-butting for the world’s biggest population, are we?

How OB of you.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #157 - Feb 13^th, 2016 at 9:47am Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2016 at 10:37pm: Arse-covering and yeah-but-no-butting for the world’s biggest population, are we? How OB of you. OB?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96194 Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #158 - Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:00am Sorry,dear. The buttons are all mixed up. I tried to quote OB’s post. Please forgive.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #159 - Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:09am Karnal wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:00am: Sorry,dear. The buttons are all mixed up. I tried to quote OB’s post. Please forgive. Who is OB?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #160 - Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:09am can you hazard a guess Bobby? OB = Old Boy
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #161 - Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:12am polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 10:09am: can you hazard a guess Bobby? OB = Old Boy No - http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=ml;sort=mlletter;letter=o
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #162 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 6:44am The poll has closed & 3 people would still trust a Church organisation to look after their kids! Some people are very trusting.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Christians worse than Muslims Reply #163 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31pm Where are the feminists???
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