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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #90 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:17am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:12am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:08am:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 6:49am:

Great move by Andrews.

He is doing something that the liberals are good at.

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and the federal Liberals government and their supporters don't know how to handle it.

Has the Victoria opposition come out and say that they will or won't support the plan

The Victoria opposition said it was little more than a stunt and that there are more important things to focus on, like Labor's deficit, the colossal waste of money cancelling a billion-dollar project and other problems affecting Victorians. The Victoria opposition is right on all points.

What's more important that child rape? Shame that coalition always supports institutional child rape.

Yup—the turncoat govt won’t spend any money helping those found to have been sexually assualted. Probably thinks the RC into Child Sex abuse is a waste of money.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #91 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:17am

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:17am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:12am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:08am:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 6:49am:

Great move by Andrews.

He is doing something that the liberals are good at.

WEDGE POLITICS

and the federal Liberals government and their supporters don't know how to handle it.

Has the Victoria opposition come out and say that they will or won't support the plan

The Victoria opposition said it was little more than a stunt and that there are more important things to focus on, like Labor's deficit, the colossal waste of money cancelling a billion-dollar project and other problems affecting Victorians. The Victoria opposition is right on all points.

What's more important that child rape? Shame that coalition always supports institutional child rape.

Yup—the turncoat govt won’t spend any money helping those found to have been sexually assualted. Probably thinks the RC into Child Sex abuse is a waste of money.

Of course. The religious nut jobs in his party have his balls.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #92 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:21am

Hmmm... it can be a win-win situation for andrews except for the hardlline lib supporters.

Win if Turnbull says "no" - winning on the compassion side.
Win if Turnbull says "yes" - winning on the compassion side. Very little at stakes since generally Andrews/lab won't lose many swinging voters over this and they were never going to win the diehard lib supporters - they will complain and whine though.
If the Vic opposition put too much of a fight/sound, then they might put off swinging voters since Victoria generally is more rational/progressive than NSW, which is what most forum posters are from, I suspect.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #94 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:37am

double plus good wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

It's about as far-fetched as it gets, even for an nice person like you.

no it's not. All you've done is limit the destination countries by one. You stop them coming here, they go there, you haven't stopped any drownings, just moved it along.

Not in Australian waters, That's all that matter to me.

that's because you're a dirt bag.

And you are a maggot wriggling around at the bottom of a rotten garbage bin. I don't sit up thinking about what happens 1,000's of miles away. I'll leave that to retards like you.

and yet you're the one who continually brings up what the Muslims are doing in Paris Cheesy

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #95 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:40am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:42am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

Armpit, do you get a kick out of seeing children suffer?

No, which is why I support the party that is taking kids out of detention. .

you can pretend all you like, you called for the kids to be sent into detention you scum. You even called Andrews a more on for saying they should remain.

One day, if something happens to you and your wife and your kids have to depend on strangers, how do you want your kids treated? Or do you agree the strangers should put their ideology ahead of your kids safety?

Actually, YOU did by supporting the ALP and Greens to keep Labor's appalling policy going. Kids in detention when the Coalition left office in 2007 - ZERO, NONE, NADA, ZIP. Kids in detention when Coalition regained office (i.e. on Labor's watch) - 2,000+. You can play childish games with words all you like, but at the end of the day the truth will remain: Labor locked up more than 2,000 kids (many who are orphans whose parents drowned at sea) while the Coalition is setting them free. By the way, no one invited those people or their kids here and there's nothing preventing them from going home. Those families are free to return home any time they wish. So enough of your faux, politically biased outrage. Time for you to grow a brain and use it.

Kids in detention in 2007 were ZERO, NONE, NADA, ZIP were they .......... how many kids were being bombed, killed or raped in war torn countries because they had no where to go?

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #96 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:43am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

It's about as far-fetched as it gets, even for an nice person like you.

no it's not. All you've done is limit the destination countries by one. You stop them coming here, they go there, you haven't stopped any drownings, just moved it along.

So then what of the 12,000 genuine refugees that Tony Abbott organised to come here before being deposed?

what about them? You were talking about boat people, what do they have to do with boat people?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #97 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:41am

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:37am:

double plus good wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

It's about as far-fetched as it gets, even for an nice person like you.

no it's not. All you've done is limit the destination countries by one. You stop them coming here, they go there, you haven't stopped any drownings, just moved it along.

Not in Australian waters, That's all that matter to me.

that's because you're a dirt bag.

And you are a maggot wriggling around at the bottom of a rotten garbage bin. I don't sit up thinking about what happens 1,000's of miles away. I'll leave that to retards like you.

and yet you're the one who continually brings up what the Muslims are doing in Paris Cheesy

Sparky doesnt get the sharpest stanley knife. In fact, his boss always gives him the wooden practice one as Sparky still fails to understand how to use it. Instead, the just have sparky chew through the boxes. The poor sod.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #98 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:42am

stunspore wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

Hmmm... it can be a win-win situation for andrews except for the hardlline lib supporters.

Win if Turnbull says "no" - winning on the compassion side.
Win if Turnbull says "yes" - winning on the compassion side. Very little at stakes since generally Andrews/lab won't lose many swinging voters over this and they were never going to win the diehard lib supporters - they will complain and whine though.
If the Vic opposition put too much of a fight/sound, then they might put off swinging voters since Victoria generally is more rational/progressive than NSW, which is what most forum posters are from, I suspect.

I agree with most of your points Stun, except the term "Vic Opposition" The only time we see a reply from what's left of them is to carp on about the time taken to fix things their pathetic one term government created. I have only seen three of them in the public arena since they were booted out.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74912 Gender:	Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business Reply #99 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:44am Vic wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:42am: I have only seen three of them in the public arena since they were booted out. sounds to me like you have the ideal liberal party in Victoria
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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #100 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:45am

Vic wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

stunspore wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:21am:

Hmmm... it can be a win-win situation for andrews except for the hardlline lib supporters.

Win if Turnbull says "no" - winning on the compassion side.
Win if Turnbull says "yes" - winning on the compassion side. Very little at stakes since generally Andrews/lab won't lose many swinging voters over this and they were never going to win the diehard lib supporters - they will complain and whine though.
If the Vic opposition put too much of a fight/sound, then they might put off swinging voters since Victoria generally is more rational/progressive than NSW, which is what most forum posters are from, I suspect.

I agree with most of your points Stun, except the term "Vic Opposition" The only time we see a reply from what's left of them is to carp on about the time taken to fix things their pathetic one term government created. I have only seen three of them in the public arena since they were booted out.

Yes, the shoebox king is definitely a weakling opposition.

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #101 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:08am:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 6:49am:

Great move by Andrews.

He is doing something that the liberals are good at.

WEDGE POLITICS

and the federal Liberals government and their supporters don't know how to handle it.

Has the Victoria opposition come out and say that they will or won't support the plan

The Victoria opposition said it was little more than a stunt and that there are more important things to focus on, like Labor's deficit, the colossal waste of money cancelling a billion-dollar project and other problems affecting Victorians. The Victoria opposition is right on all points.

So is this a stunt as well

Premier Mike Baird supports Daniel Andrews' calls for Malcolm Turnbull to let asylum seeker children stay

Read more: smh.com.au/nsw/premier-mike-baird-and-victorian-premier-daniel-andrews-tell-malc
olm-turnbull-they-will-take-asylum-seekers-20160206-gmnhxt.html#ixzz3zQX6tX8x

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and I love it

About time the liberal party got some of it own medicine back

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Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business
Reply #102 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:57am

Labor voter wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:08am:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 6:49am:

Great move by Andrews.

He is doing something that the liberals are good at.

WEDGE POLITICS

and the federal Liberals government and their supporters don't know how to handle it.

Has the Victoria opposition come out and say that they will or won't support the plan

The Victoria opposition said it was little more than a stunt and that there are more important things to focus on, like Labor's deficit, the colossal waste of money cancelling a billion-dollar project and other problems affecting Victorians. The Victoria opposition is right on all points.

So is this a stunt as well

Premier Mike Baird supports Daniel Andrews' calls for Malcolm Turnbull to let asylum seeker children stay

Read more: smh.com.au/nsw/premier-mike-baird-and-victorian-premier-daniel-andrews-tell-malc
olm-turnbull-they-will-take-asylum-seekers-20160206-gmnhxt.html#ixzz3zQX6tX8x

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and I love it

About time the liberal party got some of it own medicine back

Good to see the moderates in the lib party take a stand. Shame turnbull is such a coward.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74912 Gender:	Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business Reply #103 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:58am sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:57am: Shame turnbull is such a coward. Turnbull has sold his soul to the devil for the top job
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Victoria to put people smugglers back in business Reply #104 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 8:00am John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:58am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 7:57am: Shame turnbull is such a coward. Turnbull has sold his soul to the devil for the top job A modern day pontius pilate.
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