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GordyL
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Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:43pm
 
Many years ago when I first heard about honour killings I read a subject line about rapes and honour killings and drew the conclusion it was the family of the victims taking their own justice into their own hands, which made me feel uncomfortable as I'm a bit of a fan of due process, but I understood how emotion would evoke vigilantism.

When I read it was the families who actually killed the victim to preserve family honour I had to reread the article several times because I thought I must have lost my compression abilities.

Here's an idea,  let's import 1000s of people from a part of the world with the most vile culture. What could possibly go wrong.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/a-powerful-documentary-about-pakistans-honor-killings?intcid=mod-latest
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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 12:59pm
 
Pakistan has quite a few honour killings every year, the number is increasing.
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Reply #2 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:34pm
 
It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims.  Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason.  Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies.   Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims.  Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason.  Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies.   Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Time to stop being an enabler.
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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 5:57pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 12:59pm:
Pakistan has quite a few honour killings every year, the number is increasing.


It certainly does. So does India. Apparently, throwing acid in the face of a girl who rejected a young man’s advances has taken off there.

Most of these girls later commit suicide.The men are rarely charged, but so what if they are? Imagine watching your daugher or sister’s face mutilated and blinded, go through multiple surgeries, lose the family house in medical bills, and then find her body hanging? That’s a whole family ruined.

There are more of these kind of "honour" crimes committed in India than the rest of the world put together. It was Not too long ago that women threw themselves onto their husband’s funeral pyres.

You can understand this, perhaps, but what’s hard to grasp is that their children and relatives let them burn.

As a champion of women’s rights, FD should have a lot to say about this.
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Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:52am
 
FD, what do you think about this issue?

As an advocate for women's rights, I mean.

Your take would be really inspirational here, I think.
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 12:48pm
 
GordyL wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
|dev|null wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims.  Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason.  Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies.   Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Time to stop being an enabler.



Time to stop being an Islamophobe...   Grin Grin
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 7:00pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims.  Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason.  Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies.   Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy



I take you point to a degree.

However it would be interesting to know the exact correlation between the Ottoman Empire's expansion into southern Europe and the honour killings there having lasted until the 1980's. Indeed I suspect this might be quite telling.



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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:55pm
 
0ktema wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 7:00pm:
|dev|null wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims.  Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason.  Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies.   Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy



I take you point to a degree.

However it would be interesting to know the exact correlation between the Ottoman Empire's expansion into southern Europe and the honour killings there having lasted until the 1980's. Indeed I suspect this might be quite telling.





There’s a PhD in that, Oktema, but strangely our resident advocate for women’s rights remains silent on the issue.

FD  advocated invading Afghanistan and Iraq to support women’s rights. He must have something to say on the status of Indian women, shurely.
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