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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #15 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:41pm
 
miketrees wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Whenever I see another huge breakthrough in science, it reminds me that it does not pay to think you know everything.

That is why I am Agnostic.

A month ago we said gravity waves did not exist, only because we had not yet found them.


Much like God says "Seek and you WILL find". You won't find if you don't seek.

Just like you won't find the Gravity waves if you don't look for them.
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Reply #16 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:52pm
 
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
miketrees wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Whenever I see another huge breakthrough in science, it reminds me that it does not pay to think you know everything.

That is why I am Agnostic.

A month ago we said gravity waves did not exist, only because we had not yet found them.


Much like God says "Seek and you WILL find". You won't find if you don't seek.

Just like you won't find the Gravity waves if you don't look for them.


My husband is agnostic.

Some of my beautiful neighbours are too.

They're open to reassessing the situation. That's great because it means we can talk about God, life, death etc. I never apply pressure...it's the last thing they need.

In the case of my husband though, I've cried and begged him to believe.

It has had no effect.

I have left the matter in God's hands.

I don't know what more I can do.

Cry



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Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm
 
Lisa - I had the same issue

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............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:02pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
miketrees wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Whenever I see another huge breakthrough in science, it reminds me that it does not pay to think you know everything.

That is why I am Agnostic.

A month ago we said gravity waves did not exist, only because we had not yet found them.


Much like God says "Seek and you WILL find". You won't find if you don't seek.

Just like you won't find the Gravity waves if you don't look for them.


My husband is agnostic.

Some of my beautiful neighbours are too.

They're open to reassessing the situation. That's great because it means we can talk about God, life, death etc. I never apply pressure...it's the last thing they need.

In the case of my husband though, I've cried and begged him to believe.

It has had no effect.

I have left the matter in God's hands.

I don't know what more I can do.

Cry





As far as Christianity is concerned there is only believers in the Salvation bought by Jesus or non believers. What the people of the world call themselves is in consequential.

The verse "Don't be unequally yolked" comes to mind when marriage or business is concerned.

As a Christian all you can do and all your responsibility is is to bring the other person to a point of decision to either accept or reject the Gospel message. Beyond that set the example and by all means pray from them as long as they live. You can do no more.

People are free to accept the Gospel and they are also free to reject it. The disciples were instructed to preach the Gospel and if a town rejected it move on to the next town so they can hear it.

People are free to reject Jesus. The main point is they are bought to a point of decision either way that's the Christians job.

Ramming it down peoples throats and begging them is not the Gospel message. Only God can change the inner heart. Sure let them see the Holy Spirit which is God through you though as an example of Gods Love.

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Reply #19 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:05pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

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............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.



Good verse, lets look at that one in more depth. I'll break out the books.
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Reply #20 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:09pm
 
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:05pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

Quote:
............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.



Good verse, lets look at that one in more depth. I'll break out the books.


You need a 'book' to understand a simple concept?  Why?
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #21 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:11pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

Quote:
............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.


I keep telling him (with tears in my eyes) that I cannot bear the thought of going to Heaven to find he's not there.

I want us all to be together....the whole family.

He understands where I'm coming from.

It's terrible when you care for a person so much.

You don't want to lose them.




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Reply #22 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:05pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

Quote:
............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.



Good verse, lets look at that one in more depth. I'll break out the books.


You need a 'book' to understand a simple concept?  Why?


Seriously ?

Ever heard of a Concordance , Commentary, Strongs , Translating the original key words to further ones understanding in religious studies ?
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Reply #23 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:15pm
 
And now for some Scottish Metal  ( more like cloth and wood)- my fave version of Amazing Grace.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #24 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:20pm
 
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Ashley wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
miketrees wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Whenever I see another huge breakthrough in science, it reminds me that it does not pay to think you know everything.

That is why I am Agnostic.

A month ago we said gravity waves did not exist, only because we had not yet found them.


Much like God says "Seek and you WILL find". You won't find if you don't seek.

Just like you won't find the Gravity waves if you don't look for them.


My husband is agnostic.

Some of my beautiful neighbours are too.

They're open to reassessing the situation. That's great because it means we can talk about God, life, death etc. I never apply pressure...it's the last thing they need.

In the case of my husband though, I've cried and begged him to believe.

It has had no effect.

I have left the matter in God's hands.

I don't know what more I can do.

Cry





As far as Christianity is concerned there is only believers in the Salvation bought by Jesus or non believers. What the people of the world call themselves is in consequential.

The verse "Don't be unequally yolked" comes to mind when marriage or business is concerned.

As a Christian all you can do and all your responsibility is is to bring the other person to a point of decision to either accept or reject the Gospel message. Beyond that set the example and by all means pray from them as long as they live. You can do no more.

People are free to accept the Gospel and they are also free to reject it. The disciples were instructed to preach the Gospel and if a town rejected it move on to the next town so they can hear it.

People are free to reject Jesus. The main point is they are bought to a point of decision either way that's the Christians job.

Ramming it down peoples throats and begging them is not the Gospel message. Only God can change the inner heart. Sure let them see the Holy Spirit which is God through you though as an example of Gods Love.



You're right.

Unfortunately, you can't help who you fall in love with.

And over time, I've come to love his heart and soul.

We always finishing each other's sentences....we voice each other's thoughts...he's a good guy.

Deep in my heart, I know he would make an excellent Christian and he would be great in helping out in our Church.

He's got so much to offer.

I don't know how he isn't able to see his potential.

Anyway....
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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Reply #25 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:23pm
 
We all choose our own inner paths I guess. That's free will.

Nice Video BTW.
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Reply #26 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:29pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

Quote:
............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.


I keep telling him (with tears in my eyes) that I cannot bear the thought of going to Heaven to find he's not there.

I want us all to be together....the whole family.

He understands where I'm coming from.

It's terrible when you care for a person so much.

You don't want to lose them.


God says, 'if you love them enough to stay married with them, that'll do for me.'


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Reply #27 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:34pm
 
Yep....nice clip and nice chat.

Thank you.

It means a lot to me.

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Reply #28 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:41pm
 

It did to me too, when he told me.

It meant I could continue to love my wife and he would love both of us.

Darned tears.
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Reply #29 - Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:44pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:29pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:11pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
Lisa - I had the same issue

Quote:
............... And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy........


1 Corinthians 7.

God is Good.


I keep telling him (with tears in my eyes) that I cannot bear the thought of going to Heaven to find he's not there.

I want us all to be together....the whole family.

He understands where I'm coming from.

It's terrible when you care for a person so much.

You don't want to lose them.


God says, 'if you love them enough to stay married with them, that'll do for me.'




This puts it well (I can't post links): -


Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 7:14: “For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.”

In families where either a father or mother is a Christian believer, by virtue of God's calling, God views both the unbelieving mate and their children in a special way. This verse does not necessarily say God calls unbelieving mates, but He blesses them. They live with a converted person, which provides them with an intimate exposure to God's way of life.

The word “sanctification” is used to indicate “separation to God” ( Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words , “Sanctification, Sanctify”). Something or someone “sanctified” is set apart in a separate category for a particular use. “Holy” comes from hagios , which “fundamentally signifies 'separated' (among the Greeks, dedicated to the gods), and hence, in Scripture in its moral and spiritual significance, separated from sin and therefore consecrated to God, sacred” (ibid., “Holiness, Holy, Holily”).

While the believer's conduct may be a powerful example for the unbelieving mate, he or she can usually go further than just setting an example to the children. A believing parent can actively teach them God's way and directly develop their understanding and relationship with Him. Without the influence of a converted parent, children in the household would be no different from others who, in ignorance, disobey God and lead spiritually “unclean” lives. However, because of the parent's conversion and relationship with God, such children are in a special category. Although not baptized, they are part of the “holy nation,” the Church (1 Peter 2:9). They also have special access to the knowledge of God's way of life.Ho

In the process of maturing physically, emotionally and spiritually, children of a believer have the choice to accept and respond to God's calling. If they do, they can receive the Holy Spirit as promised (Acts 2:38-39).

As with anyone coming to conversion, children of members must experience genuine repentance. Additionally, they must understand the lifelong commitment and responsibilities of being an “ambassador for Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:20). Competent counseling from a variety of spiritually wise people, such as ministers, parents and experienced members, can greatly aid a young adult's development toward baptism.
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