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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #120 - Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
FD, do you really expect people to.believe you’re an advocate for Muslim.women’s rights?

I take back what I said before. I think you do need a poo joke. Badly.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #121 - Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
FD, do you really expect people to.believe you’re an advocate for Muslim.women’s rights?

I take back what I said before.



I think you do need a poo joke. Badly.







Karnal,

Why don't you simply make one up.

.......and then attribute it to FD.             Roll Eyes

?????


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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #122 - Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
How about the bit where I told you what my motives are?



you can tell me until you're blue in the face. I still don't believe you.

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
Did you invent something to disbelieve on my behalf so you could continue ignoring everything I say and insert your own version instead? .



invent? no ... although you seem to be pretty good at inventing what people say ... my opinion is based on all your advocacy work that I've seen


freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
which for some reason seems to be identical to the version you substitute for every other critic of Islam.


only those who I feel aren't being honest. Take Gordyl for example ... I've never called him a liar, he's honest about his criticisms and doesn't pretend to be advocating something else

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
Is there anyone else besides you who is capable of criticising Islam properly?

is this you inventing what I say again?


Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
FD, do you really expect people to.believe you’re an advocate for Muslim.women’s rights?


he does Grin Grin Grin
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #123 - Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:00pm:
Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Haven't you suggested in this forum, that people who [i.e. in your opinion] 'unfairly' criticise ISLAM 'a particular religion'
, are racists ????




are you suggesting racists can't have valid opinions?





Did you have a particular racist in mind ???


And, your opinion, is that i am a 'racist',        .....because you have noticed that i predominantly criticise ISLAM [and moslems, because they are adherents of ISLAM] ???



Well, well, well!!!!!

How very RACIST of me!!!!!!!!
             Cheesy            Grin





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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?









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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #124 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
How about the bit where I told you what my motives are?



you can tell me until you're blue in the face. I still don't believe you.

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
Did you invent something to disbelieve on my behalf so you could continue ignoring everything I say and insert your own version instead? .



invent? no ... although you seem to be pretty good at inventing what people say ... my opinion is based on all your advocacy work that I've seen


freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
which for some reason seems to be identical to the version you substitute for every other critic of Islam.


only those who I feel aren't being honest. Take Gordyl for example ... I've never called him a liar, he's honest about his criticisms and doesn't pretend to be advocating something else

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:06pm:
Is there anyone else besides you who is capable of criticising Islam properly?

is this you inventing what I say again?


Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
FD, do you really expect people to.believe you’re an advocate for Muslim.women’s rights?


he does Grin Grin Grin


You are confused John. I did not tell you what my motives are. I am trying to figure out what exactly you have chosen not to believe.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #125 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:01am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29am:
You are confused John. I did not tell you what my motives are



I think you are confused FD ... you've said many times that you are motivated by your concern for womens rights.

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:29am:
I am trying to figure out what exactly you have chosen not to believe.


keep thinking about it, I'm sure it'll come to you sooner or later.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #126 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:08am
 
If I have said it many times, you won't have any trouble quoting me.

BTW, is your argument now that you do not believe that I support women's rights because you do not believe I support women's rights? It must be very convenient for you to simply substitute your own reality when you can not cope with the one you are presented with.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #127 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:18am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:08am:
If I have said it many times, you won't have any trouble quoting me.



freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
How exactly is standing up for the rights of Muslim women an excuse to criticise Muslims in general?



freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 11:46am:
So how do you explain my support for the rights of Muslim women?


freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:08am:
It must be very convenient for you to simply substitute your own reality when you can not cope with the one you are presented with.



not sure you're in a position to question anyones reality when you struggle so much with simple concepts.

I've told you several times that 'I don't believe your motives'.  What part of that is difficult for you?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #128 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:20am
 
Ah. So when you say you don't believe my 'motives', you really mean you don't believe what I say, even if I say nothing at all about motivation?

You reject reality and substitute it with your own? You have invented your own alternative version of me, and your posts make no sense because you are responding to what that alternative version says, rather than what I actually say?

Would you mind elaborating on what this alternative version of me says?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #129 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:22am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Ah. So when you say you don't believe my 'motives', you really mean you don't believe what I say, even if I say nothing at all about motivation?

You reject reality and substitute it with your own?


ohh, I get it ... this is where you pretend you can't read.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #130 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:32am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
i.e.
What you are proposing,
         ....is that nobody, can consistently and repeatedly "make a derogatory or negative comment about a particular race or religion"
, because if they do, "then it's pretty obvious that they are racists"
.


if that's all you criticise, then yes it is obvious.

you want an example yadda?


muslim sexually abuses kid, yadda mentions it 1000 times in various threads

Catholic sexually abuses kid, yadda never says boo .... not even once.


is it the abuse you object to yadda? or the muslim? if it's the muslim, then you are certainly racist.







John Smith,

I don't expect, that you have read every one of posts here on OzPol.....



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391854581/463#463
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Karnal,

I do condemn paedophile priests.

They have betrayed the trust that their office [as a priest] afforded them, and they have stolen away the innocence of innocent children.




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391854581/464#464
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And i condemn the hierarchy and the leadership within the churches that have effectively tolerated and protected paedophile priests.

Those men [the leaders in the churches], should have been properly judging their own house [which is God's house, that is entrusted into their hands], imo.




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1366162198/89#89
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Brian_Ross,

I do condemn this violence committed by persons who claim to be Christians.




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1311898068/2#2
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pansi1951,

The truth is that Anders Breivik is a political 'reactionary'.

He is a political 'reactionary' against the REALITY of what ISLAM is, and against what ISLAM openly promotes.



I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM, but i do abhor and condemn his foolish and violent method of 'reacting' to the REALITY of what ISLAM is.

IMO, Anders Breivik has shown himself to be, no better than moslems/ISLAM.




In many posts on OzPol, i have stated that we, the people of the Western nations, should seek to separate ourselves from all aspects of ISLAM and ISLAMIC culture.

THAT, is what i promote.

Separation from ISLAM and ISLAMIC culture.


And my opinion is, that we should expel from our Western societies, everyone, who self declares as a moslem.

Why so ???

Because duh!, ISLAM and moslems, are not compatible, with our Western values of truth, and justice, and liberty.

And by their own conduct, moslems everyday, prove that that FACT is true.




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1455330352/48#48
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I believe that convicted child molesters ought to be executed, by the state, on behalf of the community.





John Smith,

Note well,          .....in that last quote, my declaration is NOT targeting moslems in particular.



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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #131 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:36am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 1:34pm:
Maybe I had the wrong impression of you FD ... all this time I always thought all you wanted to do was ban or bomb them.


Were you wrong about being wrong John?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #132 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:44am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:36am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 1:34pm:
Maybe I had the wrong impression of you FD ... all this time I always thought all you wanted to do was ban or bomb them.


Were you wrong about being wrong John?



where's the rest of that conversation FD?
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Reply #133 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:47am
 
You don't remember it do you John? I have tried telling you about that conversion before. Would you believe that you did not believe me?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #134 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:51am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Ah. So when you say you don't believe my 'motives', you really mean you don't believe what I say, even if I say nothing at all about motivation?

You reject reality and substitute it with your own? You have invented your own alternative version of me,


Not at all, FD. You have.

And you’ve done this all on your own.
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