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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #135 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:51am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:32am:
I don't expect, that you have read every one of posts here on OzPol...



true ... and i usually try to avoid the extremism board altogether.

Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:32am:
I believe that convicted child molesters ought to be executed, by the state, on behalf of the community.



I found this one particularly interesting ... wasn't it you who just a short time ago, tried to have a go at me for saying a child molestor should be  killed


If I was to guess Yadda, I'd say all those comments were made under duress, with the purpose of highlighting how you're not a Islamophobe .. I could be wrong of course.
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Reply #136 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:52am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:47am:
You don't remember it do you John? I have tried telling you about that conversion before. Would you believe that you did not believe me?


Conversion? Sounds like a Freudian reference to the 2007 FD.

Did he convert?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #137 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:55am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:47am:
You don't remember it do you John? I have tried telling you about that conversion before. Would you believe that you did not believe me?


I vaguely remember it FD ... I think I told you that the last time you mentioned it. That's why I asked for the rest of the conversation.

You'll notice I said 'maybe' ..... that implies that while possible, I wasn't convinced. Why you suddenly think I should now be convinced because I previously said 'maybe' baffles me.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #138 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:28am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:51am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:32am:
I believe that convicted child molesters ought to be executed, by the state, on behalf of the community.



I found this one particularly interesting


...wasn't it you who just a short time ago, tried to have a go at me for saying a child molestor should be  killed







John Smith,

You are just like every leftist/'humanist' i have engaged in argument with.

You leftists/'humanists' are 'all about', discrediting the worldview of the other,         .....whenever others have, and express, a worldview which does not coincide with your own worldview.

Wholly.

Absolutely nothing else, is important.




And truth, has got nothing to do with how you conduct yourself.




http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1455330352/54#54


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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #139 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:55am:
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:47am:
You don't remember it do you John? I have tried telling you about that conversion before. Would you believe that you did not believe me?


I vaguely remember it FD ... I think I told you that the last time you mentioned it. That's why I asked for the rest of the conversation.

You'll notice I said 'maybe' ..... that implies that while possible, I wasn't convinced. Why you suddenly think I should now be convinced because I previously said 'maybe' baffles me.


I am just wondering whether you are maybe wrong about being wrong. That is the only time that reality has maybe penetrated through to you.

Is there anything I have actually said that you have a problem with? Or is it all based on you not believing what I say? Would you mind elaborating on this carefully constructed alternative reality you have invented about what my views are?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #140 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 11:21am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Would you mind elaborating on this carefully constructed alternative reality


Well apparently it all began in 2007...
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #141 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 3:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
I am just wondering whether you are maybe wrong about being wrong.



of course, but since you've avoided answering questions, and change tact with every comment, I find it unlikely

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
That is the only time that reality has maybe penetrated through to you


even then, it's still twice as much reality as you've ever experienced

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Is there anything I have actually said that you have a problem with?


plenty .

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Or is it all based on you not believing what I say?


that doesn't help your cause

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Would you mind elaborating on this carefully constructed alternative reality you have invented about what my views are?


It's obviously beyond you since this has been answered many times. What makes you think you'll get it if I answer again?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #142 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm
 
John, your first attempt to justify yourself was based on my number of posts on Islam. This thing about simply not believing what I say my views are (which you take to mean motivation) is new. So far the only example you have given is my claim to support women's rights. What other views of mine do you consider to be lies? Or is it more a case of picking and choosing your reality as you go?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #143 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
John, your first attempt to justify yourself was based on my number of posts on Islam.



no, your number of posts was merely one example of why I don't believe you

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
This thing about simply not believing what I say my views are (which you take to mean motivation) is new.


so when I had previously told you that you use womens rights merely as an excuse to attack muslims, you didn't think I was questioning your motives?

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
So far the only example you have given is my claim to support women's rights


not sure what exactly you are on about it, but knowing you, it probably doesn't matter anyway.

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
What other views of mine do you consider to be lies?


the only two issues I'm aware of that you comment on regularly and so have any firm beliefs in, are some of your views on electoral reform, and your views on Muslims  ... ohh and that you are determined to avoid as much 'feedback' in feedback as possible. Everything else, as far as I have seen, there is not enough to make a determination either way.

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
Or is it more a case of picking and choosing your reality as you go?



you must mean picking holes in your reality 


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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #144 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:56pm
 
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the only two issues I'm aware of that you comment on regularly and so have any firm beliefs in, are some of your views on electoral reform, and your views on Muslims  ... ohh and that you are determined to avoid as much 'feedback' in feedback as possible. Everything else, as far as I have seen, there is not enough to make a determination either way.


So which of these views have you decided are so inconvenient for you that they must be lies? FYI, this is my website, and it contains a series of articles on my views on a range of topics, all accessible via the home page. I would be interested to see you apply your magical skills of identifying when people are lying about their own thoughts to these articles.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #145 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 5:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
[quote]the only two issues I'm aware of that you comment on regularly and so have any firm beliefs in, are some of your views on electoral reform, and your views on Muslims  ... ohh and that you are determined to avoid as much 'feedback' in feedback as possible. Everything else, as far as I have seen, there is not enough to make a determination either way.



freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
So which of these views have you decided are so inconvenient for you that they must be lies?



I'm not sure I fully understand what your preferred political model is yet, but I'm working on it. As far as whether it's honest or not, I don't see any reason for you lying about your preferred model. That just doesn't make sense. On muslims you know my opinion , and as far as feedback goes, I suppose  ignoring it can be seen as a lie, but its not how I see it.


freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
FYI, this is my website, and it contains a series of articles on my views on a range of topics, all accessible via the home page


I never go to the homepage. My shortcut takes me directly to the 'recent' list. You writing a monologue on a web page is not a good indicator of lies anyway. It's more how you interact/ reply with others on the topic that leads me to question your motives. Your failure to answer questions, your ignoring answers when they are given, your refusal to address others concerns  ..  doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in your motives
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #146 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:02pm
 
So it's just Islam you think I am lying about, as well as any other opinions of mine, eg women's rights, that make your accusations look stupid?
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #147 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
So it's just Islam you think I am lying about, as well as any other opinions of mine, eg women's rights, that make your accusations look stupid?


friggen ell  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.... no, it's your claim that you are concerned about womens rights that you are lying about.

Just let me know how many times I need to repeat this so I can get it over and done with, once and for all.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #148 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
So it's just Islam you think I am lying about, as well as any other opinions of mine, eg women's rights, that make your accusations look stupid?


If you don’t mind me saying, FD, it’s questions like this that make JS’s accusations look smart.

I know, sometimes a question is just a question. I’m just saying, that’s all.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #149 - Feb 18th, 2016 at 9:11pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
So it's just Islam you think I am lying about, as well as any other opinions of mine, eg women's rights, that make your accusations look stupid?


friggen ell  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.... no, it's your claim that you are concerned about womens rights that you are lying about.

Just let me know how many times I need to repeat this so I can get it over and done with, once and for all.


Ah. And you know I am lying, because what I say about women's rights is consistent with what I say about Islam? Or is this nothing to do with all your whining about my supposedly 'unfair' criticism of Islam?
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