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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #30 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:07pm

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:04am:

islam is the mother load of bad ideas. We should never stop critising ideas

they think the same about Western Ideas and yet you complain when they criticise it.

Well I guess we all have to pick what we think is right and wrong. Some cultural practises don't float my boat but I'm indifferent about them as they’re harmless. Some are just wrong, and thought wrong by the overwhelming majority of people in THIS country.

its not about picking right and wrong ... I don't like Islam (I'm not particularly fond of any religion) but I don't give a damn what they do over there. It's for them to sort out and they'll either sort it out or kill each other. We need to stay out of their business just like they need to stay out of ours. You can't drag yourself into their business and then complain when they object.

Where do you stand on what they are doing over here?

Yup I was going to ask the same thing.

Do you think all immigrants who come to Australia should be sat down and given a stern talking to about stuff that's on and not on? I'm not talking about a pop quiz to see if they know who Skippy and Don Bradman is.

Not at all.

They should be chucked out the moment they cross the line of cultural incompatibility.

It is NOT for us to tell them what they are coming into. It is for THEM to find it out and to assimilate to it. They don't HAVE to come here. If they can't bother to assimilate, they can and should be thrown out.

After all, we are giving them a chance to BETTER their lives. Not a chance to sh!t into ours.

So fit in or farrk off is entirely correct.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #31 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 12:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

This is another example of the sickness in Islam

why? because they resist western traditions?

Isn't that exactly what you are doing against Islam?

You talk as if the two cultures were equal.

you talk as if you think you are better. Cheesy

Absolutely I am in so far as I make the best of my culture (rather piss and poo on it like you do)

Danish, English, Italian, French, Spanish, German - European - culture and civilisation are infinitely better than any, ANY Muslim Arabs version of culture.

It is not my making but I DO identify with them. Who the hell wants to be a backward Muslim Arab when they could be Danish, English, Italian, French etc??

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #32 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:28pm

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:04am:

islam is the mother load of bad ideas. We should never stop critising ideas

they think the same about Western Ideas and yet you complain when they criticise it.

Well I guess we all have to pick what we think is right and wrong. Some cultural practises don't float my boat but I'm indifferent about them as they’re harmless. Some are just wrong, and thought wrong by the overwhelming majority of people in THIS country.

its not about picking right and wrong ... I don't like Islam (I'm not particularly fond of any religion) but I don't give a damn what they do over there. It's for them to sort out and they'll either sort it out or kill each other. We need to stay out of their business just like they need to stay out of ours. You can't drag yourself into their business and then complain when they object.

Where do you stand on what they are doing over here?

Yup I was going to ask the same thing.

Do you think all immigrants who come to Australia should be sat down and given a stern talking to about stuff that's on and not on? I'm not talking about a pop quiz to see if they know who Skippy and Don Bradman is.

Not at all.

They should be chucked out the moment they cross the line of cultural incompatibility.

It is NOT for us to tell them what they are coming into. It is for THEM to find it out and to assimilate to it. They don't HAVE to come here. If they can't bother to assimilate, they can and should be thrown out.

After all, we are giving them a chance to BETTER their lives. Not a chance to sh!t into ours.

So fit in or farrk off is entirely correct.

The problem is this lot loves their sky daddy way too much.
Give an inch.....

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #33 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 11:12pm

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 12:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

This is another example of the sickness in Islam

why? because they resist western traditions?

Isn't that exactly what you are doing against Islam?

You talk as if the two cultures were equal.

you talk as if you think you are better. Cheesy

Absolutely I am in so far as I make the best of my culture (rather piss and poo on it like you do)

Danish, English, Italian, French, Spanish, German - European - culture and civilisation are infinitely better than any, ANY Muslim Arabs version of culture.

It is not my making but I DO identify with them. Who the hell wants to be a backward Muslim Arab when they could be Danish, English, Italian, French etc??

piss and poo on it like I do? Exactly where have I done that Sore end? Is it because I haven't partaken of your hobby of crapping all over Muslims?

You see, someone who gets a kick out of pissing on others, can in my book, never call themselves superior. Someone truly superior wouldn't need to piss and poo on others down like you do.

As to who wants to be a Muslim ... it's the fastest growing religion in the world you drop kick. Cheesy

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #34 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 11:16pm

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 1:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:04am:

islam is the mother load of bad ideas. We should never stop critising ideas

they think the same about Western Ideas and yet you complain when they criticise it.

Well I guess we all have to pick what we think is right and wrong. Some cultural practises don't float my boat but I'm indifferent about them as they’re harmless. Some are just wrong, and thought wrong by the overwhelming majority of people in THIS country.

its not about picking right and wrong ... I don't like Islam (I'm not particularly fond of any religion) but I don't give a damn what they do over there. It's for them to sort out and they'll either sort it out or kill each other. We need to stay out of their business just like they need to stay out of ours. You can't drag yourself into their business and then complain when they object.

Where do you stand on what they are doing over here?

you'll need to be more specific ... who are you talking about and what exactly are they doing ?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #35 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 11:23pm

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Do you agree with Brian that we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions?

criticism is one thing, and I have no problem with it if the criticism is valid. Continuous Muslim bashing hidden under a veil of 'criticism' is another thing altogether and I don't agree with it.

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries?

Depends, are we still dropping bombs on them or not? You can't kill them then complain when they repay the favour. Your moral cushion is skewed by your beliefs.

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

John do you think the best way to contain ISIS is to leave them alone?

Not leaving them alone is what created ISIS.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #36 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am

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criticism is one thing, and I have no problem with it if the criticism is valid. Continuous Muslim bashing hidden under a veil of 'criticism' is another thing altogether and I don't agree with it.

Ah, so you think I should refrain from physically assaulting Muslims while posting on this forum to establish an alibi?

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Depends, are we still dropping bombs on them or not? You can't kill them then complain when they repay the favour. Your moral cushion is skewed by your beliefs.

So if ISIS for example continued to grow by slaughtering non-Muslims, you would tell us to mind our own business?

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Not leaving them alone is what created ISIS.

Muslims created ISIS John. Would you extend any of the responsibility to them?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #38 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 7:55am

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Ah, so you think I should refrain from physically assaulting Muslims while posting on this forum to establish an alibi?

now you're being deliberately obtuse

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

So if ISIS for example continued to grow by slaughtering non-Muslims, you would tell us to mind our own business?

yes

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Muslims created ISIS John. Would you extend any of the responsibility to them?

rubbish. ISIS came about after western interference. Funny how many of the original leaders of ISIS were former Republican Guard officers. Imagine what would have happened if we didn't go into Iraq II

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #39 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 8:40am

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 12:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

This is another example of the sickness in Islam

why? because they resist western traditions?

Isn't that exactly what you are doing against Islam?

You talk as if the two cultures were equal.

you talk as if you think you are better. Cheesy

Absolutely I am in so far as I make the best of my culture (rather piss and poo on it like you do)

We must all perform our ablutions, my friend. We must give back, no?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #40 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:05am

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Ah, so you think I should refrain from physically assaulting Muslims while posting on this forum to establish an alibi?

now you're being deliberately obtuse

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

So if ISIS for example continued to grow by slaughtering non-Muslims, you would tell us to mind our own business?

yes

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Muslims created ISIS John. Would you extend any of the responsibility to them?

rubbish. ISIS came about after western interference. Funny how many of the original leaders of ISIS were former Republican Guard officers. Imagine what would have happened if we didn't go into Iraq II

John, at some stage people must be held accountable for their actions. After the USA rolled thru Iraq and into Baghdad there was but a brief moment of calm.

The destiny of the country was in it's own hands. They could have all held hands, let out a sigh of relief that Sadam was gone and got one with nation building.

But what happened? Two seconds later they started butchering each other along sectarian lines.

That is on them and no one else.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #41 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:13am

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

[quote author=freediver link=1455373840/29#29 date=1455444170]

Do you agree with Brian that we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions?

criticism is one thing, and I have no problem with it if the criticism is valid. Continuous Muslim bashing hidden under a veil of 'criticism' is another thing altogether and I don't agree with it.

I get it, bigots are taking cover in the guise of critiquing Islam. I've got nothing what so ever against Muslim people, but I have big problems with the ideology, and these problems are borne from real life experiences, not listening to Alan Jones or Bolt and sitting around frothing at the mouth saying 'the muzzies are coming'.

John, it's perfectly acceptable to say that a persons ideas or actions are fallible. A culture is just a collection of people. Some cultures are less better than others. Who would disagree that the Catholic Church's culture of celibate priests is flawed?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #42 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:09am

GordyL wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Ah, so you think I should refrain from physically assaulting Muslims while posting on this forum to establish an alibi?

now you're being deliberately obtuse

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

So if ISIS for example continued to grow by slaughtering non-Muslims, you would tell us to mind our own business?

yes

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:59am:

Muslims created ISIS John. Would you extend any of the responsibility to them?

rubbish. ISIS came about after western interference. Funny how many of the original leaders of ISIS were former Republican Guard officers. Imagine what would have happened if we didn't go into Iraq II

John, at some stage people must be held accountable for their actions. After the USA rolled thru Iraq and into Baghdad there was but a brief moment of calm.

The destiny of the country was in it's own hands.

Oh yes, that's why Uncle occupied the place and used the Iraqi treasury to pay his friends for contracts.

FD has a similar take on Uncle bringing democracy to Iraq, Gordy, but he won't say how. Given you have a similar belief, can I ask?

How did Uncle bring democracy to Iraq?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #43 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #44 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 11:15am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims?

Oh, that's easy. This question will be met with resounding silence.

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