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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74677 Gender:	Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2 Reply #60 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:31am GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am: There are some practices in Islam that are universally regarded as abhorrent. don't disagree ... but I could probably pick a few 'abhorrent' practices in any religion if I wanted too.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74677 Gender:	Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2 Reply #61 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:32am GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am: In your mind do they become an islamophobes if they critique even one aspect of Islam? Usually, for me, it's when someone blames all of Islam for the practices of a few.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95911 Gender:	Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2 Reply #62 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 9:05am polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:43am: Whereas FD would continue to ignore the issue and find endless diversions to avoid having to address it. Google: taqiyya.
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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #63 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:00pm

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:41am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

Well I was using it as an example to explain the perception of right and wrong.

perhaps you should have taken the opportunity to explain to Soren the difference between 'everyone else' and 'Islamaphobes'

There are some practices in Islam that are universally regarded as abhorrent.

Except by Muslims.

Did you know that Muslims are not allowed to criticise Islam or other Muslims in front of the kuffar?

Totalitarian group think is the order of the day, every day. Just like in Nazism. Islam is a form of national (Arab) socialism. Islam is Arab Nazism. It's expansive, it tolerates no opposition, it has universal criticism, it is cruel, zealous and violent, it is against the Jews (innovative disruption par excellence), it has an ingroup and an outgroup, it is abut tribal allegiance rather than individual merit. It has the costumes, the bombastic architecture, the suspicion of intellect, the relentless lying propaganda ('religion of peace').

Islam is Nazi.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #64 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:29pm

Soren wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:41am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

Well I was using it as an example to explain the perception of right and wrong.

perhaps you should have taken the opportunity to explain to Soren the difference between 'everyone else' and 'Islamaphobes'

There are some practices in Islam that are universally regarded as abhorrent.

Except by Muslims.

Did you know that Muslims are not allowed to criticise Islam or other Muslims in front of the kuffar?

Totalitarian group think is the order of the day, every day. Just like in Nazism. Islam is a form of national (Arab) socialism. Islam is Arab Nazism. It's expansive, it tolerates no opposition, it has universal criticism, it is cruel, zealous and violent, it is against the Jews (innovative disruption par excellence), it has an ingroup and an outgroup, it is abut tribal allegiance rather than individual merit. It has the costumes, the bombastic architecture, the suspicion of intellect, the relentless lying propaganda ('religion of peace').

Islam is Nazi.

You’ve been reading the Sufi texts again, old boy, we can tell. University of Balogney?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #65 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 11:14pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:41am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

Well I was using it as an example to explain the perception of right and wrong.

perhaps you should have taken the opportunity to explain to Soren the difference between 'everyone else' and 'Islamaphobes'

There are some practices in Islam that are universally regarded as abhorrent.

Except by Muslims.

Did you know that Muslims are not allowed to criticise Islam or other Muslims in front of the kuffar?

Totalitarian group think is the order of the day, every day. Just like in Nazism. Islam is a form of national (Arab) socialism. Islam is Arab Nazism. It's expansive, it tolerates no opposition, it has universal criticism, it is cruel, zealous and violent, it is against the Jews (innovative disruption par excellence), it has an ingroup and an outgroup, it is abut tribal allegiance rather than individual merit. It has the costumes, the bombastic architecture, the suspicion of intellect, the relentless lying propaganda ('religion of peace').

Islam is Nazi.

You’ve been reading the Sufi texts again, old boy, we can tell. University of Balogney?

. Who would know that you would try and make it out to be nonsense, however its true. Islam is against democracy and democratic rights, freedom of speech is banned in Islam. These are facts.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #66 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #67 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #68 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:46am

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

It's certainly true that homophobes, misogynists etc take shelter in Muslim bashing which is obviously a tad hypocritical. This is expected by such people.

But what I find worse are people with progressive views on women, lgbt etc who in fear of the slightest chance of being labelled a racists side with theocrats, Muslim theocrats who hold repugnant views on just about everything they believe in.

Bizarre world eh?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #69 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 8:46am

ian wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:41am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

Well I was using it as an example to explain the perception of right and wrong.

perhaps you should have taken the opportunity to explain to Soren the difference between 'everyone else' and 'Islamaphobes'

There are some practices in Islam that are universally regarded as abhorrent.

Except by Muslims.

Did you know that Muslims are not allowed to criticise Islam or other Muslims in front of the kuffar?

Totalitarian group think is the order of the day, every day. Just like in Nazism. Islam is a form of national (Arab) socialism. Islam is Arab Nazism. It's expansive, it tolerates no opposition, it has universal criticism, it is cruel, zealous and violent, it is against the Jews (innovative disruption par excellence), it has an ingroup and an outgroup, it is abut tribal allegiance rather than individual merit. It has the costumes, the bombastic architecture, the suspicion of intellect, the relentless lying propaganda ('religion of peace').

Islam is Nazi.

You’ve been reading the Sufi texts again, old boy, we can tell. University of Balogney?

. Who would know that you would try and make it out to be nonsense, however its true. Islam is against democracy and democratic rights, freedom of speech is banned in Islam. These are facts.

Of course they're not facts. No one has been able to convince me of this for the past 7 years, and I'm easy.

I believe everything I read.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #70 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 10:12am

GordyL wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

It's certainly true that homophobes, misogynists etc take shelter in Muslim bashing which is obviously a tad hypocritical.

Homosexuals and the LGBT community like to promote the idea that they have cause, for a natural alliance with the the moslem community, ....coz clearly the moslem community are just another minority, who are suffering from the prejudices of the majority, just like themselves.......

And the moslem community are happy to foster that idea.

The idea that as a minority group, homosexuals and LGBT have a natural alliance and affinity with the the moslem community.

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IMAGE.....

Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-10/muslim-village-media-slams-abbotts-islam-h...
Quote:

Australia's Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammad has taken issue with Mr Abbott's call for a reformation within Islam.

"Islam is not in any need of reformation since...

the normative principles and practices of the religion [ISLAM!] allow Muslims to harmoniously coexist within pluralist societies that are based on the universal values of compassion and justice," he said.

COMMENT by Yadda;

All moslems are filthy stinking liars!!!

QUESTION;
In places where secularism and pluralism is NOT PROTECTED IN LAW, and in places where there is NOT PROTECTION IN LAW for homosexuals and the LGBT community,
.....in those places, how does ISLAM, and how do moslems, culturally, and lawfully, behave towards homosexuals and the LGBT community ?

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In places where 'the moslem' has no authority in making laws, 'the moslem' will often PRETEND to be a tolerant person, but;

All moslems are filthy stinking liars!!!

[....because, .....moslems either, misrepresent ISLAM to those who are not moslems,
OR,
moslems will always refuse to acknowledge what is true, about ISLAM]

THE TRUTH;
Moslems are not tolerant people.

The moslem is not permitted by his religion, to be tolerant of people who are not moslems.

That fact,

is an article of faith, for every moslem.

Do some Googling;

"Malaysia's Prime Minister: LGBTs, liberalism, and pluralism are enemies of Islam"

"Last Malaysian Hindu temple in central Kuala Lumpur condemned, given five days to vacate"

"Malaysian temple condemned, temple staff and devotees given 15 minutes to leave"

"Malaysian government views LGBT community as a 'spreading problem' to be stopped"

"Malaysian deputy prime minister: Islam not compatible with freedom, liberal thought"

"Yet another Malaysian non-Muslim house of worship demolished"

"Malaysian state holding seminar on "threat of Christianity" "

"A message from Malaysia's king: "Muslims need to emulate Prophet Muhammad" "

Checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Indonesia, the 'crucial US ally'.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/indonesia

And checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Malaysia, 'the partner of the West'.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/Malaysia

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GordyL wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

Bizarre world eh?

Yeah, there are a lot of deeply deluded people, who hate truth, .....out there!

And you are one of them.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #71 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 11:46am

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

So how do you explain my support for the rights of Muslim women?

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #72 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 12:17pm

GordyL wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

It's certainly true that homophobes, misogynists etc take shelter in Muslim bashing which is obviously a tad hypocritical. This is expected by such people.

But what I find worse are people with progressive views on women, lgbt etc who in fear of the slightest chance of being labelled a racists side with theocrats, Muslim theocrats who hold repugnant views on just about everything they believe in.

Bizarre world eh?

I generally agree, if they restrict themselves to criticising a particular incident or person/s. But if the only time someone makes a comment is to make a derogatory or negative comment about a particular race or religion, then it's pretty obvious that they are racists etc. My views do not change how your views are seen, even if my views may be flawed.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #73 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 12:18pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

So how do you explain my support for the rights of Muslim women?

'I thought we covered that ? .... it's a handy excuse for you to criticse Muslims in general.

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Re: No love for Pakis on 14/2
Reply #74 - Feb 17^th, 2016 at 12:21pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am:

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

How far would you extend your silence? Would you still be telling us to mind our own business if they started methodically killing non-Muslims in an increasing number of countries? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

Interesting question FD - by the way, how far would you extend your silence over the porkies and the "ban them, kill them, nuke them" attacks against muslims? If it led to killing of muslims in an increasing number of countries, would you continue grasping for endless diversions to avoid having to condemn them, or even address the issue at all? Or would common sense violate your carefully constructed moral cushion?

If I was John Smith, I'd complain about you unfairly bringing it up more often than pedophile priests, or Islamic terrorists, and suggest you mind your own business.

no, if you were john smith you'd stop pretending you had any motive other than your real motive

What motive am I pretending to have John, and what is my real motive?

you're pretending to care about womens rights, your real motive is muslim bashing.

So how do you explain my support for the rights of Muslim women?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

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