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Reply #30 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #31 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:08am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

Not by Alan Jones?

Shurely shome mishtake.

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Reply #32 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:34am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

You'd have thought they'd have replaced his with an English speaking mufti.

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Re: France closing mosques
Reply #33 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 10:46am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

Every current grand mufti of Australia is always [presented as] a paragon of virtue, 'today'.

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Everyone understands, that the 'public function' of the Australian Grand Mufti is to express views and opinions which are sanctioned by ISLAM, ....so we all must understand, that every grand mufti is 'unquestionably', a man of considerable virtue.

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Just as Sheik 'catmeat' Hilaly, was portrayed by the moslem community as a holy man, .....before his [ISLAMICALLY correct] incessant gaffs, which embarrassed the moslem community, and brought the moslem community in Australia into disrepute!!!

Google;
catmeat Hilaly

Just as Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed [phew!] today, is also viewed as a revered and holy man, who is a representative/spokesman for the moslem community in Australia.

But what about in 6 months time ???

Can we be certain that Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed will still be held in high regard by the moslem community in Australia ???

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Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-10/muslim-village-media-slams-abbotts-islam-h...
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Australia's Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammad has taken issue with Mr Abbott's call for a reformation within Islam.

"Islam is not in any need of reformation since...

.....the normative principles and practices of the religion [i.e. ISLAM] allow Muslims to harmoniously coexist within pluralist societies that are based on the universal values of compassion and justice," he said.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: France closing mosques
Reply #34 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:37am

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Just as Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed [phew!] today, is also viewed as a revered and holy man, who is a representative/spokesman for the moslem community in Australia.

But what about in 6 months time ???

Can we be certain that Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed will still be held in high regard by the moslem community in Australia ???

No, Y, we can't be certain that Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed will still be held in high regard by the Moslem community in Australia in 6 months time.

Google: taqiyya.

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Reply #35 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:53am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

Absolute nonsense. He resigned. After a number of high profile Muslims went on record as supporting his views.

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Reply #36 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:00pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

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Ah. So a mufti speaking to an audience of Muslims - in Arabic - about dressing conservatively so as not to attract the gaze of men (the cat) has turned, through a game of knucklehead Chinese whispers, into Muslims justifying rape and telling Australians what to wear.

Dont be coy. His comments werent about dressing conservatively, they were about females who dont wear the hijab being compared to uncovered meat and deserving what they get for it. i.e. rape,. Justification for rape by Muslim men against western females, thats exactly what his comments were about.
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But can I ask? We had this discussion about 7 years ago - at least. I'm sure you were involved. What were you called back then, do you remember?

You should take medication for your paranoia.My names remained the same throughout my life. I see no ego boost in fraudulent posts on the internet, unlike some.

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Reply #37 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:04pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

ian wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 11:26pm:

The silence from the Muslim community in Australia after his comments was deafening.

Absolute rubbish.

If I remember rightly, the Muslim community was all over talkback radio and current affairs TV distancing itself from the uncovered meat line. I actually felt sorry for the poor old mufti. The Muslim community turned on him faster than an Alan Jones-inspired race riot.

The uncovered meat scandal probably fast-tracked his overthrow - by muslims.

I though Hilaly getting caught red handed on CCTV vandalising his mosque is what fast tracked replacing him.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #38 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:08pm

And heres the current grand Mufti, another fine upstanding Muslim terrorist supporter and inciter of hatred against western values.
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In 2012 Mohamed visited the Gaza Strip, where he met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh and told local news agencies, "I am pleased to stand on the land of jihad to learn from its sons".[4][5][6] He is said to support Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who he met in Qatar in April 2013.[7]

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In his 1993 book An Invitation To Contemplate he said that non-Muslims wanted their women to walk around, “exposed as a piece of sweet pastry ... devoured by the eyes of men"[10] and in 1995 he wrote, "the West does not bring to us any good, all they bring are their diseases".

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In October 2014 Mohamed and the ANIC called for the offence of "advocating terrorism" to be removed from the "Foreign Fighters Bill", currently before the Australian Parliament, saying a cleric could fall foul of the law simply by "advocated the duty of a Muslim to defend his land" or if he referred to stories in the Quran, Bible and Torah in his sermons.[12]

Chinese whispers eh karnal? Let me ask you a question, why are you so adamant in your support of terrorist sympathisers and inciters of hatred towards Western values and culture? What causes your self loathing?

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Reply #40 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:20pm

Hilali on Egyptian TV (same interview)

In the half-hour program Sheik Hilaly said the controversy showed how standards were skewed and claims were fabricated. "There is no freedom and no democracy [for Muslims] - the most dishonest and unjust people are Western people and the English in particular."

He said Australian law allowed freedoms that at times were "close to madness", and that Australia had a third gender of "in-between people who are not male or female".

Cheesy

What a racist maggot.

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Reply #41 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:20pm

ian wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

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Ah. So a mufti speaking to an audience of Muslims - in Arabic - about dressing conservatively so as not to attract the gaze of men (the cat) has turned, through a game of knucklehead Chinese whispers, into Muslims justifying rape and telling Australians what to wear.

Dont be coy. His comments werent about dressing conservatively, they were about females who dont wear the hijab being compared to uncovered meat and deserving what they get for it. i.e. rape,. Justification for rape by Muslim men against western females, thats exactly what his comments were about.
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But can I ask? We had this discussion about 7 years ago - at least. I'm sure you were involved. What were you called back then, do you remember?

You should take medication for your paranoia.My names remained the same throughout my life. I see no ego boost in fraudulent posts on the internet, unlike some.

Are you saying you haven't had any other user names here, Ian? I'm not talking about ego boosts, I'm trying to work out if we've had exactly the same discussion before.

Do you have any quotes that justify rape?

And not just rape, but the Muslim rape of white women? That's what you're arguing.

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Reply #42 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:22pm

double plus good wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

Hilali on Egyptian TV (same interview)

In the half-hour program Sheik Hilaly said the controversy showed how standards were skewed and claims were fabricated. "There is no freedom and no democracy [for Muslims] - the most dishonest and unjust people are Western people and the English in particular."

He said Australian law allowed freedoms that at times were "close to madness", and that Australia had a third gender of "in-between people who are not male or female".

Cheesy

What a racist maggot.

What's your source, Homo?

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Reply #43 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:24pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

ian wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:45am:

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Ah. So a mufti speaking to an audience of Muslims - in Arabic - about dressing conservatively so as not to attract the gaze of men (the cat) has turned, through a game of knucklehead Chinese whispers, into Muslims justifying rape and telling Australians what to wear.

Dont be coy. His comments werent about dressing conservatively, they were about females who dont wear the hijab being compared to uncovered meat and deserving what they get for it. i.e. rape,. Justification for rape by Muslim men against western females, thats exactly what his comments were about.
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But can I ask? We had this discussion about 7 years ago - at least. I'm sure you were involved. What were you called back then, do you remember?

You should take medication for your paranoia.My names remained the same throughout my life. I see no ego boost in fraudulent posts on the internet, unlike some.

Are you saying you haven't had any other user names here, Ian? I'm not talking about ego boosts, I'm trying to work out if we've had exactly the same discussion before.

Do you have any quotes that justify rape?

And not just rape, but the Muslim rape of white women? That's what you're arguing.

If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

— Taj El-Din Hilaly

So who's fault is it karnal??? Answer him.

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Reply #44 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:28pm

An extract from one of the current muftis books-

* Dr Mohammed has written 26 book including Invitation to Contemplate which has been translated into English and French. In this religious book the Mufti claims non-Muslims want their women “with legs and arms exposed, filling the shopping malls and the streets, competing for the glimpses of men”.

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