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Feb 22nd, 2016 at 1:04pm
 

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THE science is settled – Islam is not a religion of peace.


This is not the opinion of some mad, frothy-mouthed, swivelled-eye Islamophobe (although you will be labelled far worse for making any such similar observations), it is a simple statement of empirical evidence. (Note to younger readers – empirical evidence is that which you can actually observe, such as how many legs on a spider, as opposed to “facts” that you’re taught at school these days, such as “Tuvalu is about to disappear under the waves” or “heterosexuality is not the norm”).

The reason it can be empirically observed that Islam is not a religion of peace is because that’s what the numbers tell us, and ultimately, science is merely a question of doing the maths.


In all of the worst conflicts in the world – as measured by the number of fatalities last year, that being more than 10,000 – Islam was either attacking itself or being attacked by itself. That is to say, the forces on both sides identify themselves as adherents of Islam.



In the second category of wars last year – deaths between 1000 and 10,000 – Islam was again at war with itself, with two exceptions: the Mexican drug wars, with more than 8000 dead, and the Ukraine war.

When we get to the third category of seriousness of conflict, with deaths under 1000, we also see Islam at war with itself, along with being at war with Russia, China, India, the Philippines, Myanmar, Israel and Thailand. The exception is the Colombian drug wars.

Now, you can argue as much as you like about the political and geographical history and causes of these wars, or indeed about the relevance of the religion of Islam to any particular conflict.


For example, there are those who see the current stabbings and attacks against Israelis by Palestinians as merely an oppressed people rising up and nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, although this is hard to justify when those instructing the kids to “stab! stab! stab!” include imams brandishing knives in mosques.


Iraqis inspect the damage caused by an alleged air raid by Iraqi forces in Mosul city, northern Iraq. Picture: EPA

Equally, you can argue that it is not Islam’s fault that China oppresses the Muslim Uygurs of Xinjiang, or that Russia intends to hang on to the North Caucasus, or that the Thais, Burmese and Filipinos won’t agree to separate their Muslim populations from the rest.

Or you can get all hot under the collar and blame the entire mess in the Middle East on either George W. Bush for going in, or Barack Obama for pulling out, or the Israelis for, er, building some blocks of flats.

Nor does it mean that because Islam is involved in nearly all major global conflicts, that followers of Islam, as individuals, are anything other than wonderful human beings.

You can be a religious, law-abiding, peace-loving, halal-munching, terrorism-hating, proud everyday Aussie Muslim and still acknowledge the empirical evidence – Islam is not a religion of peace.

When Islamic forces or Islamic ideology are generating the greatest number of deaths in the greatest number of conflicts in the world, and the greatest number of victims are Muslims, there are only two possible conclusions: one, it has absolutely nothing to do with Islam at all, but is entirely the fault of (insert popular left-wing grievance), or two: Mecca, we have a problem.


Egypt’s President el-Sisi says it’s the latter.

None of which is really important to Australia, other than for one thing: our right to express an opinion about Islam or – dare I say it – to even criticise aspects of it.

Currently, throughout the world, new laws are being introduced which make such criticism a criminal offence.


A Palestinian protester throws stones at Israeli forces on February 19 in the West Bank village of Bilin to mark the 11th anniversary of their uprising against the building of Israel’s separation barrier and the construction of Israeli settlements. Picture: AFP

This would be in places like Yemen or Somalia, you might think, but you’re wrong.

It’s in Denmark and the United States. Last week, a Danish man was found guilty of “generalising statements ... insulting and demeaning towards adherents of Islam”.

Along with comments comparing Islam to Nazism, he was prosecuted for breaching section 266b of Denmark’s criminal code because he wrote: “Islam wishes to abuse democracy in order to get rid of democracy.”

Yet that is precisely the sentiment that any “radical” imam worth his hookah would proudly preach.

In the US Congress, Democrats are sponsoring resolution 569 to make “hate speech” towards Islam (i.e. criticism of it) a crime.............


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..................In the US Congress, Democrats are sponsoring resolution 569 to make “hate speech” towards Islam (i.e. criticism of it) a crime.

This will presumably go ahead if a Democrat becomes president, just as had Ed Miliband become Britain’s prime minister last year, “Islamophobia” would now be a crime.

Here in Australia, in the Queensland University of Technology case, section 18C of our Racial Discrimination Act is being used to prosecute students for offending and insulting a person of a different “race” whom they disagreed with.

This insidious clause must be urgently amended. Or will non-Muslim Australians in the future risk being prosecuted for “offending” the religion of peace?
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-the-numbers-have-it--islam-eq...
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Reply #2 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 2:51pm
 
The author does realise science essentially involves references right?
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 3:42pm
 
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as opposed to “facts” that you’re taught at school these days, such as “Tuvalu is about to disappear under the waves”  or “heterosexuality is not the norm”


Stopped reading there.

His agenda is pretty clear.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm
 
SANITY shows that Islam is doomed.


Which Islamophobe said THIS????

“You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it. Therefore, modern Muslims and a modern Islam is already impossible. If there is no separation between religion and state, there will be no democracy especially without equality for women. Then we will keep a theocratic system. So it will end.”

“Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

The remarks are in reference to the broader questions of how he sees the Middle East, and specifically his native Syria which has been in a state of civil war for years. [he] describes the totality of Islam in the life of people in the Islamic world saying Muslim society is “based on a totalitarian system. The religion dictates everything: How to run, how to go to the toilet, who one has to love…”
http://www.welt.de/kultur/literarischewelt/article152319848/Ein-moderner-Islam-i...


Er..... the writer regarded as the greatest Arabic language poet alive today has said Islam cannot be modernised. Adunis Asbar, known by his pen name Adonis, is a Syrian-born writer often considered one of the greatest living poets of the Arabic language. He has come under criticism for comments he made recently about Islam before receiving the Erich Maria Remarque Peace Prize, named after the famous pacifist and author of the classic World War One novel ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’.



Gandy, you are on the losing side. It's Berlin, March 1945 for Islam. Get out while you can.


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Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:
It's Berlin, March 1945 for Islam.


Good point S - Germany came out of the dark and became an economic superpower  Wink
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Reply #6 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Can you see that happening for any Muslim countries Gandalf?
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Reply #7 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:20pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:38pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:
It's Berlin, March 1945 for Islam.


Good point S - Germany came out of the dark and became an economic superpower  Wink

With the help of.....



What is it about you guys?? You want to be EVEN stupider and EVEN more dogma-bound than you have to? It just shows what a load oif imbeciles the regular mosque-going Muslims are if you are the brains, Gandy.

Pathetic, stupid, ridiculous.

Carry on. You are defending a dying, terminal case (Islam).


Your only hope is to bring back the dark ages - and you are working on it relentlessly.iAddress this, my evasive, dishonest, arse-coverimng little Musulman interlocutor:

“You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it. Therefore, modern Muslims and a modern Islam is already impossible. If there is no separation between religion and state, there will be no democracy especially without equality for women. Then we will keep a theocratic system. So it will end.”

“Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”





Speak to the Muslim critic of your losing creed (no death threats, please).





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Reply #8 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Can you see that happening for any Muslim countries Gandalf?

Its already happening FD, Indonesia will be in the top 10 economies in the next decade or so.
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Reply #9 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:49pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:23pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Can you see that happening for any Muslim countries Gandalf?

Its already happening FD, Indonesia will be in the top 10 economies in the next decade or so.



That sounds like AGW predictions - bollocks.  Indonesia is a backward and utterly corrupt place. They may be churning out cheap shite but that is only by the grace of corporations that owe no allegiance or anything else to Indonesia.   It is an illusion that Indonesia will be signifciant. There are plenty of other low-wage, corrupt and explotative countries around the world.

And Islam is going to be in the way of all this -  who the hell would want to put money in a country that is in the new for its ISIS affiliates??





You are out of your mind, Gandy. Too much Koran.


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Indonesia is the 4th biggest country in the world, and you 'predict' it might make it into the top 10? If it made it to 4th position that would be on par with it's population. Australia has a higher GDP than Indonesia, with less than 1/10th of it's population, and I don't hear anyone calling Australia an economic superpower.
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freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Indonesia is the 4th biggest country in the world, and you 'predict' it might make it into the top 10? If it made it to 4th position that would be on par with it's population. Australia has a higher GDP than Indonesia, with less than 1/10th of it's population, and I don't hear anyone calling Australia an economic superpower.

But will they send us AID???



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Reply #12 - Feb 22nd, 2016 at 9:29pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 7:20pm:
SANITY shows that Islam is doomed.


Which Islamophobe said THIS????

“You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it. Therefore, modern Muslims and a modern Islam is already impossible. If there is no separation between religion and state, there will be no democracy especially without equality for women. Then we will keep a theocratic system. So it will end.”

“Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

The remarks are in reference to the broader questions of how he sees the Middle East, and specifically his native Syria which has been in a state of civil war for years. [he] describes the totality of Islam in the life of people in the Islamic world saying Muslim society is “based on a totalitarian system. The religion dictates everything: How to run, how to go to the toilet, who one has to love…”
http://www.welt.de/kultur/literarischewelt/article152319848/Ein-moderner-Islam-i...


Er..... the writer regarded as the greatest Arabic language poet alive today has said Islam cannot be modernised. Adunis Asbar, known by his pen name Adonis, is a Syrian-born writer often considered one of the greatest living poets of the Arabic language. He has come under criticism for comments he made recently about Islam before receiving the Erich Maria Remarque Peace Prize, named after the famous pacifist and author of the classic World War One novel ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’.



Gandy, you are on the losing side. It's Berlin, March 1945 for Islam. Get out while you can.




Sanity shows? That implies that those who defend and appease Islam are not sane. That is clearly untrue. You cannot say Obama is insane; misguided perhaps.

Nor can I agree that Gandalf is on the losing side. His "religion of peace" is making ground in Africa, Parramatta, and Paris. In fact, his cult of Mohamed worship cannot be opposed without loud accusations of insanity in the form of a phobia. At this rate, it is Western objectivity, pluralism, and secular values that are doomed.
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Reply #13 - Feb 23rd, 2016 at 8:35am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Indonesia is the 4th biggest country in the world, and you 'predict' it might make it into the top 10? If it made it to 4th position that would be on par with it's population. Australia has a higher GDP than Indonesia, with less than 1/10th of it's population, and I don't hear anyone calling Australia an economic superpower.


Nevertheless, its a tribute to Indonesia's stability and social and political cohesion. Yes it follows that a massive country should have massive economic output - but the real achievement is in having a massive country comprised of lots of different ethnicities and communities being able to remain united and prosper.
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Reply #14 - Feb 23rd, 2016 at 8:57am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Indonesia is the 4th biggest country in the world, and you 'predict' it might make it into the top 10? If it made it to 4th position that would be on par with it's population. Australia has a higher GDP than Indonesia, with less than 1/10th of it's population, and I don't hear anyone calling Australia an economic superpower.


Sorry, FD, did you just say population?

That's just the reason Indonesia will be listed in the top ten quite soon. The other surprising country?

Pakistan.

This is not based on nominal GDP, but economic growth. Indonesia is already in the G20. Watch it compete with Brazil, Pakistan and possibly even the Philippines for third prize.
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