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Reply #120 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:48am

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

Let me know when you figure out what your question is.

Exactly what I asked.

But I'll take your non-answer as your way of saying that you would never think that Soren and Sprint's "ban them, deport them" mantra could ever be a threat to people's freedom.

Feel free to quote me Gandalf.

Quote you not answering? Fantastic idea FD.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #121 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:56am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

Don't be duped by this deceitful answer, Lisa. He's moved the goal post.

The question is NOT about which countries have taken the most Muslim economic migrants, but WHY do these selfsame people head for a Western civilisation rather than an Islam-saturated Middle Eastern country where their religious indoctrination would find a sympathetic public.

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Reply #122 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:04pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

But you can practice your religion. That’s the very definition of liberalism, Herb.

I think FD might have forgotten, don’t you?

Sorry - but I've eliminated Islam by removing the congregation BACK to their Muslim-majority societies - heavily compensated through the sale of all the assets owned by a few generations of the political criminals who told Enoch Powell to get stuffed before then embarking upon an aggressive immigration policy that was designed to Change the Face of Britain and seed every suburb in the country with blacks and Muslims.

Right now Bali is a powder keg of potential religious mass-murder.

Enoch Powell was a Pommie Nazi, Herbie - like yourself. As you’ve stated, you reserve the right to ban.religions yourself. Our constitution, however, prevents this from.happening without a revolution or coup.

Now as an old Nazi, we know you’re in favour of these sorts of measures. FD, however, claims to stand for liberal democracy. It is, he says, the very reason he started this site.

Your views are consistent, Herbie. You were welcomed into this country and resettled, only to call for a fascist revolution, the race traitors who welcomed you being dealt with in.the fullness of time. Hence, you’re free to say what you think. Few Australians will ever listen or share your views.

FD is free to express himself too, but he chooses not to. FD won’t come out and say that he’s abandoned liberal ideas, he’ll just keep pretending while, deep down, he actually agrees with you.

Can you give FD a link to Stormfront, Herbie? Yadda’s already put him on to Islamthereligionofpeace.

Hopefully, FD will one day tell us what he truly thinks - in the fullness of time.

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Reply #123 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:12pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

But you can practice your religion. That’s the very definition of liberalism, Herb.

I think FD might have forgotten, don’t you?

Sorry - but I've eliminated Islam by removing the congregation BACK to their Muslim-majority societies - heavily compensated through the sale of all the assets owned by a few generations of the political criminals who told Enoch Powell to get stuffed before then embarking upon an aggressive immigration policy that was designed to Change the Face of Britain and seed every suburb in the country with blacks and Muslims.

Right now Bali is a powder keg of potential religious mass-murder.

Enoch Powell was a Pommie Nazi, Herbie - like yourself. As you’ve stated, you reserve the right to ban.religions yourself. Our constitution, however, prevents this from.happening without a revolution or coup.

Now as an old Nazi, we know you’re in favour of these sorts of measures. FD, however, claims to stand for liberal democracy. It is, he says, the very reason he started this site.

Your views are consistent, Herbie. You were welcomed into this country and resettled, only to call for a fascist revolution, the race traitors who welcomed you being dealt with in.the fullness of time. Hence, you’re free to say what you think. Few Australians will ever listen or share your views.

FD is free to express himself too, but he chooses not to. FD won’t come out and say that he’s abandoned liberal ideas, he’ll just keep pretending while, deep down, he actually agrees with you.

Can you give FD a link to Stormfront, Herbie? Yadda’s already put him on to Islamthereligionofpeace.

Hopefully, FD will one day tell us what he truly thinks - in the fullness of time.

I'm nothing more to the Right than an old time Conservative of the sort that gave Europe back its democracy, its sovereignty, and its FREEDOM from Hitler's expansionist adventures which he played like a board game.

I will, however, agree that FD is WAY to the Left of me as demonstrated by his tolerance of the board being infested with trolls, vandals, graffiti artists, and floaters who just can't be flushed away like 'Wet Wipes' can.

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Reply #124 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

No Western country has improved as a result of Muslim immigration and quite a few (the ones with large numbers) deteriorated considerably. This is at the crux of this thread - what good is mass Muslim immigration if its net effect everywhere is negative?

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Reply #125 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:08pm

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

No Western country has improved as a result of Muslim immigration and quite a few (the ones with large numbers) deteriorated considerably. This is at the crux of this thread - what good is mass Muslim immigration if its net effect everywhere is negative?

Quibbling over the therm "settlement", are we? What a shifty, evasive, yeah-but-no-but arse-coverer you are, OB. How postmodern of you.

Six million refugees in Turkey and Lebanon. One and a half million refugees in Pakistan. A quarter of Lebanon's population are now Syrians. After Africa, most of the world's refugee population are in Muslim countries.

What a mendacious little coooont you are.

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Reply #126 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:09pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

No Western country has improved as a result of Muslim immigration and quite a few (the ones with large numbers) deteriorated considerably. This is at the crux of this thread - what good is mass Muslim immigration if its net effect everywhere is negative?

Quibbling over the therm "settlement", are we? What a shifty, evasive, yeah-but-no-but arse-coverer you are, OB. How postmodern of you.

Six million refugees in Turkey and Lebanon. One and a half million refugees in Pakistan. A quarter of Lebanon's population are now Syrians. After Africa, most of the world's refugee population are in Muslim countries.

What a mendacious little coooont you are.

It is a very important distinction: asylum (ie temporary protection visa) and settlement (permanency).

Don't pretend you don't know the HUGE significance of the difference.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #127 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

No Western country has improved as a result of Muslim immigration and quite a few (the ones with large numbers) deteriorated considerably. This is at the crux of this thread - what good is mass Muslim immigration if its net effect everywhere is negative?

Quibbling over the therm "settlement", are we? What a shifty, evasive, yeah-but-no-but arse-coverer you are, OB. How postmodern of you.

Six million refugees in Turkey and Lebanon. One and a half million refugees in Pakistan. A quarter of Lebanon's population are now Syrians. After Africa, most of the world's refugee population are in Muslim countries.

What a mendacious little coooont you are.

It is a very important distinction: asylum (ie temporary protection visa) and settlement (permanency).

Don't pretend you don't know the HUGE significance of the difference.

What a tendentious old tjurd you are, OB. Don't pretend Muslim countries don't take the bulk of the world's refugees, you stoopid, stoopid idjit.

It is a jolly world, no?

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #128 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

No Western country has improved as a result of Muslim immigration and quite a few (the ones with large numbers) deteriorated considerably. This is at the crux of this thread - what good is mass Muslim immigration if its net effect everywhere is negative?

Agreed

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Reply #129 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Soren wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

Gandalf, don't you think it's weird how all these hordes of Muslims are NOT fleeing to other Muslim countries who have lots of money?

Doesn't Islam permit Muslims helping fellow Muslims?

Except of course the ~4 million or so Syrians who fled to muslim neighbouring countries right?

Quick question for you Lisa, who do you think has settled the most muslim refugees?

a) muslim countries like Pakistan and Jordan?
or
b) western European countries?

b) Western European countries.

Muslim countries do not settle refugees. The Palestinian refugees are still not settled in any Muslim country, 70 years on.

What rubbish. Half of Jordans population are palestinian refugees, fully resettled, integrated Jordanian citizens.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95908 Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #130 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 9:36pm Stupid or mendacious? Mendacious or stupid? Which views do you defend for Freeeedom, FD? Herbie's Nazism, the old boy's lies or Sprint's agreement with them both? Remember, sometimes a question is just a question. But an answer - boy, that's something else.
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Reply #131 - Feb 28^th, 2016 at 8:40am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

What rubbish. Half of Jordans population are palestinian refugees, fully resettled, integrated Jordanian citizens.

Bollocks. Says who? Er.. the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA):

WHERE DO PALESTINE REFUGEES LIVE?

Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

A Palestine refugee camp is defined as a plot of land placed at the disposal of UNRWA by the host government to accommodate Palestine refugees and set up facilities to cater to their needs. Areas not designated as such and are not recognized as camps. However, UNRWA also maintains schools, health centres and distribution centres in areas outside the recognized camps where Palestine refugees are concentrated, such as Yarmouk, near Damascus.

The plots of land on which the recognized camps were set up are either state land or, in most cases, land leased by the host government from local landowners. This means that the refugees in camps do not 'own' the land on which their shelters were built, but have the right to 'use' the land for a residence.

Socioeconomic conditions in the camps are generally poor, with high population density, cramped living conditions and inadequate basic infrastructure such as roads and sewers.

RESPONSIBILITY OF UNRWA IN CAMPS

The responsibility of UNRWA in Palestine refugee camps is limited to providing services and administering its installations. The Agency does not own, administer or police the camps, as this is the responsibility of the host authorities.

UNRWA has a camp services office in each camp, which the residents visit to update their records or to raise issues relating to Agency services with the Camp Services Officer (CSO). The CSO, in turn, refers refugee concerns and petitions to the UNRWA administration in the area in which the camp is located.

1967 HOSTILITIES

In the aftermath of the hostilities of June 1967 and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, ten camps were established to accommodate a new wave of displaced persons, both refugees and non-refugees.

CITIES AND TOWNS

The remaining two thirds of registered Palestine refugees live in and around the cities and towns of the host countries, and in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, often in the environs of official camps. While most of UNRWA's installations such as schools and health centres are located in the Palestine refugee camps, a number are outside; all of the Agency’s services are available to all registered Palestine refugees, including those who do not live in the camps.
http://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

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Reply #132 - Feb 28^th, 2016 at 11:06am

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

What rubbish. Half of Jordans population are palestinian refugees, fully resettled, integrated Jordanian citizens.

Bollocks. Says who? Er.. the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA):

WHERE DO PALESTINE REFUGEES LIVE?

Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

A Palestine refugee camp is defined as a plot of land placed at the disposal of UNRWA by the host government to accommodate Palestine refugees and set up facilities to cater to their needs. Areas not designated as such and are not recognized as camps. However, UNRWA also maintains schools, health centres and distribution centres in areas outside the recognized camps where Palestine refugees are concentrated, such as Yarmouk, near Damascus.

The plots of land on which the recognized camps were set up are either state land or, in most cases, land leased by the host government from local landowners. This means that the refugees in camps do not 'own' the land on which their shelters were built, but have the right to 'use' the land for a residence.

Socioeconomic conditions in the camps are generally poor, with high population density, cramped living conditions and inadequate basic infrastructure such as roads and sewers.

RESPONSIBILITY OF UNRWA IN CAMPS

The responsibility of UNRWA in Palestine refugee camps is limited to providing services and administering its installations. The Agency does not own, administer or police the camps, as this is the responsibility of the host authorities.

UNRWA has a camp services office in each camp, which the residents visit to update their records or to raise issues relating to Agency services with the Camp Services Officer (CSO). The CSO, in turn, refers refugee concerns and petitions to the UNRWA administration in the area in which the camp is located.

1967 HOSTILITIES

In the aftermath of the hostilities of June 1967 and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, ten camps were established to accommodate a new wave of displaced persons, both refugees and non-refugees.

CITIES AND TOWNS

The remaining two thirds of registered Palestine refugees live in and around the cities and towns of the host countries, and in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, often in the environs of official camps. While most of UNRWA's installations such as schools and health centres are located in the Palestine refugee camps, a number are outside; all of the Agency’s services are available to all registered Palestine refugees, including those who do not live in the camps.
http://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

Ask the old boy about Muslim countries taking refugees again, Lisa.

His response will be as follows:

Ijit. Tjurd. Cooooont.

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Reply #133 - Feb 28^th, 2016 at 1:41pm

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

What rubbish. Half of Jordans population are palestinian refugees, fully resettled, integrated Jordanian citizens.

Bollocks. Says who? Er.. the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA):

WHERE DO PALESTINE REFUGEES LIVE?

Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

A Palestine refugee camp is defined as a plot of land placed at the disposal of UNRWA by the host government to accommodate Palestine refugees and set up facilities to cater to their needs. Areas not designated as such and are not recognized as camps. However, UNRWA also maintains schools, health centres and distribution centres in areas outside the recognized camps where Palestine refugees are concentrated, such as Yarmouk, near Damascus.

The plots of land on which the recognized camps were set up are either state land or, in most cases, land leased by the host government from local landowners. This means that the refugees in camps do not 'own' the land on which their shelters were built, but have the right to 'use' the land for a residence.

Socioeconomic conditions in the camps are generally poor, with high population density, cramped living conditions and inadequate basic infrastructure such as roads and sewers.

RESPONSIBILITY OF UNRWA IN CAMPS

The responsibility of UNRWA in Palestine refugee camps is limited to providing services and administering its installations. The Agency does not own, administer or police the camps, as this is the responsibility of the host authorities.

UNRWA has a camp services office in each camp, which the residents visit to update their records or to raise issues relating to Agency services with the Camp Services Officer (CSO). The CSO, in turn, refers refugee concerns and petitions to the UNRWA administration in the area in which the camp is located.

1967 HOSTILITIES

In the aftermath of the hostilities of June 1967 and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, ten camps were established to accommodate a new wave of displaced persons, both refugees and non-refugees.

CITIES AND TOWNS

The remaining two thirds of registered Palestine refugees live in and around the cities and towns of the host countries, and in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, often in the environs of official camps. While most of UNRWA's installations such as schools and health centres are located in the Palestine refugee camps, a number are outside; all of the Agency’s services are available to all registered Palestine refugees, including those who do not live in the camps.
http://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

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Palestinians in Jordan refers to people with Palestinian citizenship of Palestinian refugee status living in Jordan or sometimes all those of full or partial Palestinian ancestry living in Jordan. Most Palestinian ancestors came to Jordan as Palestinian refugees between 1947 to 1967. Today, most Palestinians and their descendants in Jordan are fully naturalized, making Jordan the only Arab country to fully integrate the Palestinian refugees of 1948

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_in_Jordan

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #134 - Feb 28^th, 2016 at 5:29pm Who are you going to believe? Wiki or the UN agency for Pallos??
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