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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #45 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

You're evading again FD.

Sorry Gandalf. Perhaps you should try broadening your question and ask me to comment on everything that everyone says.

No the questions i asked are fine. But if you dont feel comfortable answering thats fine, either say so or simply say nothing. Just dont pretend you're being asked something that you are not, in some apparent effort to avoid answering.

I'll try to elaborate. I agree with the views that are compatible with my own. I disagree with the views that are incompatible. For some, it is ambiguous whether they are compatible, in which case I cannot say whether I agree with them. Still others I may share certain principles with, but I consider them to be an over-reaction to the current situation, eg something may be reasonable in France given their current circumstances, but unnecessary here. Others I may support in practice, but would merely phrase it differently.

You may take this in reference to Yadda's posts, as well as Sprint's and Soren's. Or anyone else you can think of.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #46 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:41pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:19pm:

Bar Muslims from permanently entering liberal democracies. They have made no positive contribution, their presence is completely detrimental. Islam is no improvement on ANY society.

The same could be said about you.

In fact, it often is.

I am more Australian than you.

I doubt it.

However, that's beside the point.

You've still made no positive contribution, and your presence is completely detrimental.

Soren believes a woman who is assaulted for wearing a niqab is the inconsiderate one.

Told off.

BIG diff.

Exactly. Told off by having their veils ripped off, taking great care not to cause any head injuries or anything.

No one has the right to not be offended, no?

Just so. If they tell you in a free country that you are acting like an unmutilated vagina, you should roll with it. You do - why can't they?

Oh, I think it has something to do with the law on common assault.

Most unfair, of course. Should they roll with the oppression too?

SOoooooooo.... how does Islam come into it if it is already covered by common law??

Explain, PB. Expand. Hold forth. Dilate like the you-know-what you are.

Go on.

You’ve been at Mormor’s cooking wine.

I’ll be holding forth when we have you properly restrained, don’t you worry about that.

Pervert. Faaar king pervert.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #47 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:42pm

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:

I'm sorry S - of course we all know that you would be the first to jump to the defense of a niqabi who is assaulted.

right? Cheesy

Right.

I am of the vast majority of peaceful Australians. How dare you implicate me, you racist, Australo-phobe.

Grudgingly tolerating people's rights through gritted teeth might technically be "peaceful", but it is not "Australian".

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #48 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:

I'm sorry S - of course we all know that you would be the first to jump to the defense of a niqabi who is assaulted.

right? Cheesy

Right.

I am of the vast majority of peaceful Australians. How dare you implicate me, you racist, Australo-phobe.

Grudgingly tolerating people's rights through gritted teeth might technically be "peaceful", but it is not "Australian".

Isn't that how you tolerate people's right to mock Muhammed Gandalf?

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #49 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:45pm

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:40pm:

I'll try to elaborate. I agree with the views that are compatible with my own. I disagree with the views that are incompatible. For some, it is ambiguous whether they are compatible, in which case I cannot say whether I agree with them. Still others I may share certain principles with, but I consider them to be an over-reaction to the current situation, eg something may be reasonable in France given their current circumstances, but unnecessary here.

You may take this in reference to Yadda's posts, as well as Sprint's and Soren's. Or anyone else you can think of.

So you agree. Thanks for settling that, FD.

You’ve been hinting at having them.banned, killed and oppressed for some time, so it’s good to have it all out in the open.

Don’t feel bad about it. I think you’re really very brave.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #50 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:47pm

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:19pm:

Bar Muslims from permanently entering liberal democracies. They have made no positive contribution, their presence is completely detrimental. Islam is no improvement on ANY society.

The same could be said about you.

In fact, it often is.

I am more Australian than you.

I doubt it.

However, that's beside the point.

You've still made no positive contribution, and your presence is completely detrimental.

Soren believes a woman who is assaulted for wearing a niqab is the inconsiderate one.

Told off.

BIG diff.

Exactly. Told off by having their veils ripped off, taking great care not to cause any head injuries or anything.

No one has the right to not be offended, no?

Just so. If they tell you in a free country that you are acting like an unmutilated vagina, you should roll with it. You do - why can't they?

Oh, I think it has something to do with the law on common assault.

Most unfair, of course. Should they roll with the oppression too?

SOoooooooo.... how does Islam come into it if it is already covered by common law??

Explain, PB. Expand. Hold forth. Dilate like the you-know-what you are.

Go on.

You’ve been at Mormor’s cooking wine.

I’ll be holding forth when we have you properly restrained, don’t you worry about that.

Pervert. Faaar king pervert.

Thanks for helping him with his English, Sprint.

Good work.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #51 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:51pm

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:

I'm sorry S - of course we all know that you would be the first to jump to the defense of a niqabi who is assaulted.

right? Cheesy

Right.

I am of the vast majority of peaceful Australians. How dare you implicate me, you racist, Australo-phobe.

Grudgingly tolerating people's rights through gritted teeth might technically be "peaceful", but it is not "Australian".

Isn't that how you tolerate people's right to mock Muhammed Gandalf?

Mocking Australians isn’t racist, FD. Australia is not a race. We’re multicultural.

According to the 2007 FD, anyway. Remind me to.ask him if we’re monocultural now.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #52 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:53pm

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:

I'm sorry S - of course we all know that you would be the first to jump to the defense of a niqabi who is assaulted.

right? Cheesy

Right.

I am of the vast majority of peaceful Australians. How dare you implicate me, you racist, Australo-phobe.

Grudgingly tolerating people's rights through gritted teeth might technically be "peaceful", but it is not "Australian".

Isn't that how you tolerate people's right to mock Muhammed Gandalf?

I make a bit of a distinction between tolerating those who go out of their way to insult others and tolerating those who just go about their business with a particular choice of clothing that is not intended to insult anyone. Though of course S argues that the latter is aiming only to offend.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #53 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:56pm The Muhammed cartoons are intended to enlighten, not offend. But of course, no-one has the right not to be offended by them.
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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #54 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

You're evading again FD.

Sorry Gandalf. Perhaps you should try broadening your question and ask me to comment on everything that everyone says.

No the questions i asked are fine. But if you dont feel comfortable answering thats fine, either say so or simply say nothing. Just dont pretend you're being asked something that you are not, in some apparent effort to avoid answering.

I'll try to elaborate. I agree with the views that are compatible with my own. I disagree with the views that are incompatible. For some, it is ambiguous whether they are compatible, in which case I cannot say whether I agree with them. Still others I may share certain principles with, but I consider them to be an over-reaction to the current situation, eg something may be reasonable in France given their current circumstances, but unnecessary here. Others I may support in practice, but would merely phrase it differently.

You may take this in reference to Yadda's posts, as well as Sprint's and Soren's. Or anyone else you can think of.

I wonder if you are doing this deliberately.

Lets go one step at a time then. Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Do me a favour and don't elaborate on that - just give me a straight answer.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #55 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

The Muhammed cartoons are intended to enlighten, not offend. But of course, no-one has the right not to be offended by them.

Oh yes, and you found them so provocative you posted them here to enjoy that visceral fear of getting blown up.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you didn’t sleep for a week, remember?

Yes, some get sports cars, some take up hangliding - you posted a cartoon of Muhammed.

No one has the right to not be offended, eh?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #56 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:15pm freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:56pm: The Muhammed cartoons are intended to enlighten, not offend. But of course, no-one has the right not to be offended by them. Funny, I thought they were were intended to complete a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #57 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 8:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

You're evading again FD.

Sorry Gandalf. Perhaps you should try broadening your question and ask me to comment on everything that everyone says.

No the questions i asked are fine. But if you dont feel comfortable answering thats fine, either say so or simply say nothing. Just dont pretend you're being asked something that you are not, in some apparent effort to avoid answering.

I'll try to elaborate. I agree with the views that are compatible with my own. I disagree with the views that are incompatible. For some, it is ambiguous whether they are compatible, in which case I cannot say whether I agree with them. Still others I may share certain principles with, but I consider them to be an over-reaction to the current situation, eg something may be reasonable in France given their current circumstances, but unnecessary here. Others I may support in practice, but would merely phrase it differently.

You may take this in reference to Yadda's posts, as well as Sprint's and Soren's. Or anyone else you can think of.

I wonder if you are doing this deliberately.

Lets go one step at a time then. Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Do me a favour and don't elaborate on that - just give me a straight answer.

Here's a tip Gandalf. If you want to know what I think, ask me what I think. Don't ask me what I think someone else thinks and what I think about it.

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Funny, I thought they were were intended to complete a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This should be interesting Gandalf. What prophecy?

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #59 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 6:33am

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Here's a tip Gandalf. If you want to know what I think, ask me what I think.

Good point FD, ooh here's one I have already - you might have heard it before:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

Do

you

think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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