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Reply #60 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:38am
 
And while you’re answering those,FD, do you want to ban religious Freeeeeedom?

A simple yes or no, thanks.
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Reply #61 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am
 
Its bizarre, thats the second time FD interpreted my question about *HIS* opinion as asking him to interpret someone elses opinion.

Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #62 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 11:32am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am:
Its bizarre, thats the second time FD interpreted my question about *HIS* opinion as asking him to interpret someone elses opinion.

Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.


He couldn't possibly be doing that, G. That's a Muslim tactic.

No, FD will be along soon to answer our important questions about Freeeeeeedom. He's probably just busy or something.
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Reply #63 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 3:53pm
 
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Lets go one step at a time then. Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?


Good question, do people have the right to form an opinion of a certain group / cult / mentality / religious doctrine, which they perceive to be absolutely inhumane, evil and totally incompatible with a modern day civilization?

below are a few extracts sourced from the innumerable texts in the qur'an, which all have the self same shibboleth in islamic society and doctrine 

Consider just a fraction of islamic instructs.

qur'an 8.67It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made a great slaughter in the land

Perfectly clear muhammad making excuses for his psychotic blood lust.

qur'an 3.151 We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners,[/b]

Again perfectly clear, terrorize people in particular Christians. ( they ascribe a partner Christ to their god Y.H.W. H.) it's worth noting that muslims deliberately lie with this verse Christians did  not worship allah.

qur'an 4.74: Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other.

Clear as crystal sell your life is the command to commit suicide in the jihad against whoever is the enemy of choice at the moment.

qur'an 9.29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah

Self explanatory.

qur'an 9.39: Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place;

Self explanatory also, allah demands that muslims become killers or he will punish them and put other muslims in their place.

qur'an 9.111: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain

The sacred duty of muslims is to kill and be killed.

Now the question is: should this  hate / filth  / perversion masquerading as sacred doctrine be exposed, castigated, ridiculed and denigrated for exactly what it is (an unholy cult of spiritual and physical destruction degeneracy and depravity)?

Why are muslims and their apologists afraid to examine islam?

islam preaches hatred of those the muslim opposes, yet they and their apologists, demand that those they hate must be rendered powerless to resist and expose the evilness of the islam / apologists duo.

However truth will win in the end, muslims are what they are, they cannot change, they are on the downhill path (look at the muslim world right now, after untold $trillions of oil money and the benefit of hindsight) muslims are the sewer of the earth's civilizations. A backwards stupid inbred low intelligence sub group of society. A threat and a burden to the entire world.

The apologists are fused to the muslims by their hatred of white civilization, America, the west in general, Christianity, the jews etc..

So no matter how many lies they tell, or how much they try to oppress opposition to their perversions. Truth will eventually beat them.
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Reply #64 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 4:04pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
I wonder if you are doing this deliberately.



Gee, you think so?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am:
Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.


noooo, not FD.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #65 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 9:03pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
You're evading again FD.


Sorry Gandalf. Perhaps you should try broadening your question and ask me to comment on everything that everyone says.


No the questions i asked are fine. But if you dont feel comfortable answering thats fine, either say so or simply say nothing. Just dont pretend you're being asked something that you are not, in some apparent effort to avoid answering.


I'll try to elaborate. I agree with the views that are compatible with my own. I disagree with the views that are incompatible. For some, it is ambiguous whether they are compatible, in which case I cannot say whether I agree with them. Still others I may share certain principles with, but I consider them to be an over-reaction to the current situation, eg something may be reasonable in France given their current circumstances, but unnecessary here. Others I may support in practice, but would merely phrase it differently.

You may take this in reference to Yadda's posts, as well as Sprint's and Soren's. Or anyone else you can think of.


I wonder if you are doing this deliberately.

Lets go one step at a time then. Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Do me a favour and don't elaborate on that - just give me a straight answer.


You are not free to be a jihadi or a jihadi supporter, Gandy.  It's not your democratic right.




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Reply #66 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 5:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:43pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24th, 2016 at 7:23pm:
I'm sorry S - of course we all know that you would be the first to jump to the defense of a niqabi who is assaulted.

right?  Cheesy

Right.

I am of the vast majority of peaceful Australians.   How dare you implicate me, you racist, Australo-phobe.






Grudgingly tolerating people's rights through gritted teeth might technically be "peaceful", but it is not "Australian".


Isn't that how you tolerate people's right to mock Muhammed Gandalf?



Good point, FD.


Gandy's 'freedom and democracy and tolerance' mean different things when applied to Muslims and when applied to the infidel. It's like everything else in Islam. One set of rules and understanding for the sons of Mohammed, another, more constricted set for the bints of Mohammed and yet another, totally hemmed in one for the kuffar.

There simply is NO equality in freedoms or right or anything else under Islam.  The entire legal system of Islam is based on graded and codified inequality and unfreedom.


So please do not ask question about freedom and democracy. They have nuffin do do wiv Islam and therefore with you. You are enjoying them as created by other and extended to you but your system is completely opposed to them and so if you ever succeeded in implementing Islamic law, you wouldn't and couldn't extend the same rights and freedoms to others.  Don't be a hypocrite.

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Reply #67 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 5:48pm
 
You really are a frightful bore S. Your entire repertoire has been reduced to bland and meaningless never ever waffle that has absolutely nothing to do with whats being discussed and entirely based on your own imaginary strawmen.

To the actual point that you referenced but completely avoided addressing, of course there is a difference in terms of Australian values between acceptance of those who deliberately set out to insult and acceptance of those who just want to mind their own business - with a particular choice of clothing. 

And here you are demanding to impose blanket punishments and discriminations on muslims in response to what white non-muslim police decided to do - and you lecture me about my incompatibility with freedom and democracy.

But don't worry S - I will accept and even defend your right to demand we dismantle our progressive society and replace it with a fascist state, but I will also stand up for my right to mock your views and expose them for what they are: fascism and totally incompatible with Australian values.
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Reply #69 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 6:57pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 6:20pm:



Islamophobes are funny     Grin
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Reply #70 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 7:47pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am:
Its bizarre, thats the second time FD interpreted my question about *HIS* opinion as asking him to interpret someone elses opinion.

Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.


Gandalf, is it possible for me to answer your question without forming an opinion about what Soren's and Sprint's opinions are? Or am I supposed to answer based solely on your one line description of their position?
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Reply #71 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 7:59pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 5:48pm:
You really are a frightful bore S. Your entire repertoire has been reduced to bland and meaningless never ever waffle that has absolutely nothing to do with whats being discussed and entirely based on your own imaginary strawmen.

To the actual point that you referenced but completely avoided addressing, of course there is a difference in terms of Australian values between acceptance of those who deliberately set out to insult and acceptance of those who just want to mind their own business - with a particular choice of clothing. 

And here you are demanding to impose blanket punishments and discriminations on muslims in response to what white non-muslim police decided to do - and you lecture me about my incompatibility with freedom and democracy.

But don't worry S - I will accept and even defend your right to demand we dismantle our progressive society and replace it with a fascist state, but I will also stand up for my right to mock your views and expose them for what they are: fascism and totally incompatible with Australian values.


Now now, G, fair’s fair. The old boy only decrees a different set of laws for the Muselman, bearded numpties, the tinted races, progs, PBs, postcolonialists and dirty little inverts.

I think I’ve included everyone.

Everybody else has the right to not be offended.
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Reply #72 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 7:47pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am:
Its bizarre, thats the second time FD interpreted my question about *HIS* opinion as asking him to interpret someone elses opinion.

Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.


Gandalf, is it possible for me to answer your question without forming an opinion about what Soren's and Sprint's opinions are? Or am I supposed to answer based solely on your one line description of their position?


You’re free to answer my questions, FD. Do you want me to ask you again?
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Reply #73 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:03pm:
You’re free to answer my questions, FD. Do you want me to ask you again?


Grin Grin Grin

Gandalf's remora is being patient with FD. He's happy to ask the question again.
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Reply #74 - Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 7:47pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25th, 2016 at 9:03am:
Its bizarre, thats the second time FD interpreted my question about *HIS* opinion as asking him to interpret someone elses opinion.

Its almost like he's deliberately trying to evade.


Gandalf, is it possible for me to answer your question without forming an opinion about what Soren's and Sprint's opinions are? Or am I supposed to answer based solely on your one line description of their position?


If you're asking is it necessary to form an opinion on what someone means when they say 'ban muslim immigration' and 'deport fanily members of jihadis', then yeah i guess i am. Are such statements a little too cryptic for you? Which would be strange since you've already expressed an opinion on one of them. All im asking is if you think such calls are a threat to freedom and democracy - not what the mindset is of the people who make those calls. I have no idea why such an endeavour would confuse you now - you used to start a thread about every week by "forming an opinion" about what my or Brian's opinions were.
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