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Reply #75 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95922 Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #76 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:39pm No worries. FD, do you want to ban Freeeeedom of religion? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #77 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #78 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:26am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

It could be much worse (or better, if you ask me):

The prisoners held at Gitmo are, for the most part, what is known under international law as “francs-tireurs,” non-uniformed militiamen who conduct sabotage and terrorism operations against occupation forces. Under Article 4 of the Geneva Conventions, fighters eligible for the protections extended to prisoners of war are obliged to meet several criteria, including the wearing of uniforms or fixed insignia and — here’s the rub for the Islamic State et al. — conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. Non-uniformed militiamen and insurgents sawing the heads off of Wall Street Journal reporters do not qualify for Geneva Convention protections. They are, under the applicable international law, subject to summary execution, as are captured spies, terrorists, and the like. So: Why not shoot them?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431807/guantanamo-bay-detainees-why-not-sh...

Shoot the jihadis and deport their families.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #79 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:15am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

NO.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #80 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:17am polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am: Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy? Simple yes or no will do. Nope er ... No.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40755 Gender:	Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families Reply #81 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:23am Question 2. Do you think having muzzies in Aust threatens our freedom and democracy ? You know, as it does and has in every other country that has muzzies
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Reply #82 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 12:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

Didn't you just acknowledge that I had answered this Gandalf? As I recall, you even agreed with my response, in it's entirety.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #83 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 1:46pm

freediver wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Didn't you just acknowledge that I had answered this Gandalf?

Nope. Try again. You said nothing about whether or not such speech is a threat to freedom and democracy. If I'm wrong, show me the quote. And please make up your mind - you can't argue that you've answered the question while simultaneously arguing that you can't answer the question. You need to get a more coherent evasion strategy going.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #84 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 4:55pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Yes I have already responded to one specific example you just gave - and went on to give my view on whether it is a threat to democracy.

This is the question you were trying to get me to respond to:

Do you think sprint and soren's ban them, deport them mantra is a threat to freedom and democracy?

I might as well ask if you agree with Abu's "Islam is good" mantra.

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

How is it a threat to democracy if jihadis and their supporters and enablers are deported.

It's GOOD for democracy and freedom to get rid of their violent, sworn enemies. Hows could it possibly be a bad thing???

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Reply #85 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 4:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

If that is the free and democratic will of the people, how could it be against freedom and democracy?

You need to get it into your head that it is OK to oppose Islam. We do not all have to like it. So you are not protected from opposition until the day Islam takes over and bans freedom and democracy.

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Reply #86 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

You really are a frightful bore S. Your entire repertoire has been reduced to bland and meaningless never ever waffle that has absolutely nothing to do with whats being discussed and entirely based on your own imaginary strawmen.

To the actual point that you referenced but completely avoided addressing, of course there is a difference in terms of Australian values between acceptance of those who deliberately set out to insult and acceptance of those who just want to mind their own business - with a particular choice of clothing.

And here you are demanding to impose blanket punishments and discriminations on muslims in response to what white non-muslim police decided to do - and you lecture me about my incompatibility with freedom and democracy.

But don't worry S - I will accept and even defend your right to demand we dismantle our progressive society and replace it with a fascist state, but I will also stand up for my right to mock your views and expose them for what they are: fascism and totally incompatible with Australian values.

Do not pretend that the only thing that sets Muslims apart is fancy dress. Be honest, I know it doesn't come naturally to Muslims. The problem with Muslims is NOT the stupid get-up. It's the convictions and the ideology and the identification with the jihadi cause that the fancy dress telegraphs and demonstrates.

Nobody ever bothers the Hare Krishnas because they are totally harmless, regardless of their dress. Cant's say the same about Muslims because they are not harmless. Someone swears at a niqabi allows you to get up and squawk about it so as to ignore the murder and mayhem committed by Muslims who think the niqab and the hijab are good ideas.

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Reply #87 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Donald Trump vid going viral in Europe:

http://pumabydesign001.com/2016/02/07/this-donald-trump-video-the-snake-is-going...

Islamophobes are funny Grin

That poem/song perfectly captures what the Muslim refugees are doing in the West.

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Reply #88 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:29pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Question 2.

Do you think having muzzies in Aust threatens our freedom and democracy ?

You know, as it does and has in every other country that has muzzies

New Zealanders? I imagine that depends on the New Zealander, Sprint.

Ban them. Kill them. Cesterete them.

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Re: Stop Muslim immigation, deport jihadis & families
Reply #89 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:30pm

Soren wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:30am:

Do you think calling for bans on muslim immigration and deporting muslims en masse is a threat to freedom and democracy?

Simple yes or no will do.

If that is the free and democratic will of the people, how could it be against freedom and democracy?

If?

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