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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #45 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:54pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:33pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Tiny_Pecca is angry a Liberal government let in an Iranian man who had broken no laws and was not on any watch lists. Cleary Tiny_Pecca would prefer we bar all people with olive skin from entering Australia just incase they commit a crime.

"Monis had committed a number of "violent" and fraud-related offences before he fled the country "in disguise" in 1996, according to Iran's chief of police, General Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam."

Read all about it here ...

It makes sense that you'd believe a Police chief whose service locks up political dissidents along with anyone who opposes the regime. I can't blame our authorities for not trusting the security services of that country given its deplorable human rights record. Can you?

Good to see you stand up for Monis' human rights, Armchair. You clearly support the refugee convention and Monis' entry to Australia.

No, I'm glad the bastard is dead. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but ultimately useless. Had the government known back then what he was really like would they have let him in? Of course not. But try to remember that the only info our government had to go on about Monis was from a despotic totalitarian regime that regularly kills its own people and jails the opposition parties. Surely you can understand the reluctance of our authorities to trust implicitly the info sent from Monis' home country given their woeful human rights record.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26430 Gender:	Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court Reply #46 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:57pm macman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:02pm: Armpit and Baronvort have just had their arses handed to them on a plate. Game,set,match. Well done Mr Peck. If that's what you think you saw then you need your eyes checked, LMAO!!!!!
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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #47 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 12:00pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Tiny_Pecca is angry a Liberal government let in an Iranian man who had broken no laws and was not on any watch lists. Cleary Tiny_Pecca would prefer we bar all people with olive skin from entering Australia just incase they commit a crime.

"Monis had committed a number of "violent" and fraud-related offences before he fled the country "in disguise" in 1996, according to Iran's chief of police, General Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam."

Read all about it here ...

It makes sense that you'd believe a Police chief whose service locks up political dissidents along with anyone who opposes the regime. I can't blame our authorities for not trusting the security services of that country given its deplorable human rights record. Can you?

It sounds like they had an awful lot in common with the Howard Government.

Don't you think?

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #48 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:03pm

Government agency stamped his papers in accordance with policy and regulation ... not the government of the day.

Regardless, this kind of creeper should be shown the door immediately...... whether or not he committed the sexual assault... nobody wants that creeping into people's sleeping quarters around here...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139800 Gender:	Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court Reply #49 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:07pm "Another Labor illegal immigrant before court" Say what? Where did you get "illegal immigrant" from, Armpit? "A REFUGEE on a bridging visa ... "
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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #51 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

"Another Labor illegal immigrant before court"

Say what? Undecided

Where did you get "illegal immigrant" from, Armpit?

"A REFUGEE on a bridging visa ... "

Before that he came by boat dumbass.

Sure.

But what's with the "illegal immigrant" thing?

Asylum seekers who come by boat aren't illegal immigrants.

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #52 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:20am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:13am:

Given the green light to enter Australia, by the Liberals.
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Got a cite for that one Peccahead or did you pluck that from your ass?

Have you ever been to an international airport?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Given the green light to enter Australia, by the Liberals.

Granted refugee status, by the Liberals.

Given Australian citizenship, by the Liberals.

Killed an innocent person, while the Liberals stood by and did nothing.

He wasn't on any watch lists. So why wouldn't Customs let him in?

are the women and children on Nauru or Manus on watch lists?

Don't know because they destroyed all their ID so we don't know who they are. You make this too easy.

Keep making it up don't you?

Monis had ID. ... it was a fake name ... how'd that work for you? Grin

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #53 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:18pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Surely you can understand the reluctance of our authorities to trust implicitly the info sent from Monis' home country given their woeful human rights record.

no .... security should be non political. Whether you liked the person giving the info or not, the security services should have checked the claims BEFORE admitting monis.

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #54 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:45pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Surely you can understand the reluctance of our authorities to trust implicitly the info sent from Monis' home country given their woeful human rights record.

no .... security should be non political. Whether you liked the person giving the info or not, the security services should have checked the claims BEFORE admitting monis.

Wow, you're naive AND delusional!!!

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #55 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:50pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Surely you can understand the reluctance of our authorities to trust implicitly the info sent from Monis' home country given their woeful human rights record.

no .... security should be non political. Whether you liked the person giving the info or not, the security services should have checked the claims BEFORE admitting monis.

Wow, you're naive AND delusional!!!

says the person who chose armchair politician as his moniker

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actually, it's very appropriate ... you must have gotten lucky

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #56 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

"Another Labor illegal immigrant before court"

Say what? Undecided

Where did you get "illegal immigrant" from, Armpit?

"A REFUGEE on a bridging visa ... "

Before that he came by boat dumbass.

Sure.

But what's with the "illegal immigrant" thing?

Asylum seekers who come by boat aren't illegal immigrants.

An utterly stupid and now completely irrelevant argument. Illegal, unlawful, unauthorised - whatever.

They do not arrive lawfully so they must be detained offshore. They are not to be ever settled in Australia. When they get Cambodian or PNG citizenship they can apply for a tourist visa and if they a granted the visa they can come and visit. Otherwise they will never set foot in Australia legally.

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #57 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:19pm

Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

"Another Labor illegal immigrant before court"

Say what? Undecided

Where did you get "illegal immigrant" from, Armpit?

"A REFUGEE on a bridging visa ... "

Before that he came by boat dumbass.

Sure.

But what's with the "illegal immigrant" thing?

Asylum seekers who come by boat aren't illegal immigrants.

An utterly stupid and now completely irrelevant argument. Illegal, unlawful, unauthorised - whatever.

Well, no. There is a difference between illegal and unlawful.

For people to go around claiming that asylum seekers arriving by boat are illegal it is most definitely relevant.

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They do not arrive lawfully so they must be detained offshore. They are not to be ever settled in Australia. When they get Cambodian or PNG citizenship they can apply for a tourist visa and if they a granted the visa they can come and visit. Otherwise they will never set foot in Australia legally.

They do arrive lawfully though. We have specific laws in place, that we helped draft, that state that arriving by boat and seeking asylum is not illegal or unlawful and is 100% ok and fine. if we bothered to check their claims, and process their application, they could quite happily be accepted if deemed to be a refugee, and they could quite lawfully live in australia. We choose not to do this, and instead to torture them for no reason other than to deter other people seeking asylum.

The great irony is that what we do as a nation is illegal. its not the asylum seekers that are breaking the law. Its us.

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Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court
Reply #58 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:58pm

donincognito wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

"Another Labor illegal immigrant before court"

Say what? Undecided

Where did you get "illegal immigrant" from, Armpit?

"A REFUGEE on a bridging visa ... "

Before that he came by boat dumbass.

Sure.

But what's with the "illegal immigrant" thing?

Asylum seekers who come by boat aren't illegal immigrants.

An utterly stupid and now completely irrelevant argument. Illegal, unlawful, unauthorised - whatever.

Well, no. There is a difference between illegal and unlawful.

For people to go around claiming that asylum seekers arriving by boat are illegal it is most definitely relevant.

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They do not arrive lawfully so they must be detained offshore. They are not to be ever settled in Australia. When they get Cambodian or PNG citizenship they can apply for a tourist visa and if they a granted the visa they can come and visit. Otherwise they will never set foot in Australia legally.

They do arrive lawfully though. We have specific laws in place, that we helped draft, that state that arriving by boat and seeking asylum is not illegal or unlawful and is 100% ok and fine. if we bothered to check their claims, and process their application, they could quite happily be accepted if deemed to be a refugee, and they could quite lawfully live in australia. We choose not to do this, and instead to torture them for no reason other than to deter other people seeking asylum.

The great irony is that what we do as a nation is illegal. its not the asylum seekers that are breaking the law. Its us.

Go down to Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane International Airports and try to leave the country without a passport and see how far you get.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75258 Gender:	Re: Another Labor illegal immigrant before court Reply #59 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 6:00pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:58pm: Go down to Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane International Airports and try to leave the country without a passport and see how far you get. and that's supposed to prove what exactly?
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