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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Backbencher Abbott Attacks China Reply #15 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:13pm An example of one of the hard right hawks ... gee, keep up with the questions you ask !
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Reply #16 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:23pm

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

An example of one of the hard right hawks ... gee, keep up with the questions you ask !

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

There again, that's what the hard right hawks want ... a war against China.

It was you who said right wing hawks want a war with China. Which right wing hawks want a war with China.

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Reply #17 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:20pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:13pm:

Shared Values ~ derogative treatment of women and foreigners?

I agree.

Saying we have shared values with Japan is simply stupid in the extreme. Nothing showcases this better than the slaughter of whales and dolphins, and many other cruel practices of the Japanese oriental mind.

They have a minimal immigration program and no multiculturalism. No mosques in every second suburb - (for which I congratulate them for their foresight).

Perhaps Tony has been having too much sake over there.

Mr Abbott is getting at the US global order and a little thing called democracy. That’s what he means by shared values - something the Philippines, Taiwan and other countries who’s sovereignty is under threat by China share.

What does this have to do with the Oriental mind?

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Reply #18 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:35am

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:

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Backbencher Abbott Attacks China

I was looking for the attack. Wink

Edit: Did Kim Beazley attack China too?

No, both he and Abbott are just calling it like it is. The Greens and Labor would rather we take one up the tailpipe from China rather than talk about this openly.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 26439 Gender:	Re: Backbencher Abbott Attacks China Reply #19 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:36am ____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:13pm: Shared Values ~ derogative treatment of women and foreigners? China puts people in labour prisons and their jails are squalid. Ours are luxurious by comparison and we don't have a single labour prison.
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Reply #20 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:38am

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:57pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

ulie Bishop rebuffs Tony Abbott's call for boots on the ground

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/julie-bishop-rebuffs-tony-abbotts-call-for-boot...

Not a single mention of China.

GW is just getting his boot licking down-pat early just in case we're invaded by China.

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Reply #21 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:39am

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

An example of one of the hard right hawks ... gee, keep up with the questions you ask !

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

There again, that's what the hard right hawks want ... a war against China.

It was you who said right wing hawks want a war with China. Which right wing hawks want a war with China.

I know what I stated ... do you know what You then asked?

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Reply #22 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:50am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:35am:

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:09pm:

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Backbencher Abbott Attacks China

I was looking for the attack. Wink

Edit: Did Kim Beazley attack China too?

No, both he and Abbott are just calling it like it is. The Greens and Labor would rather we take one up the tailpipe from China rather than talk about this openly.

The Spratly Islands dispute isn't cut and dry ... and that seems to have missed Abbott and his follower's attention. Abbott warmongering is just him grandstanding by throwing grenades.

It's a lame attempt of abbott wanting attention ... now that he is a backbencher, and possibly losing that seat at the next election.

If Turnbull wasn't such a eunuch, he would put abbott on a leash.

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Reply #23 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:52am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:36am:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:13pm:

Shared Values ~ derogative treatment of women and foreigners?

China puts people in labour prisons and their jails are squalid. Ours are luxurious by comparison and we don't have a single labour prison.

Did the coalition back Gitmo, and the torture of Australians and others in it?

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Reply #24 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:52am

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

Poke the Chinese Panda enough, and there will be ramifications.
There again, that's what the hard right hawks want ... a war against China.

You are seriously deluded. Where are these hard right hawks?

Julie Bishop rebuffs Tony Abbott's call for boots on the ground

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/julie-bishop-rebuffs-tony-abbotts-call-for-boot...

No amount of bombing from distant bases will ever defeat ISIS. Abbott is totally correct in believing that only troops on the ground will clear ISIS out of Syria and Iraq.

Boots-on-the-ground will not defeat ISIS, of course, but at least it would create safe territories for the local citizens.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18055 Gender:	Re: Backbencher Abbott Attacks China Reply #25 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:40pm Yes, In response to your statement that right wing hawks wanted "a war against China", I asked where are these right wing hawks. You then went off on a tangent and cited ISIS. Talk about comprehension issues.
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Reply #26 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20pm

Selective reading on your part ... totally ignore Abbott's warmongering in the article. Abbott and other hard right hawks want a war ... any war. Abbott provoking in the middle east, now against China.

Same old, same old tactic from you. Go off tangent and then bark at the moon ... post after post, after post, after post, after post, after post ...

Abbott is a hawk, as are most who support him.

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Backbencher Abbott Attacks China Reply #27 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:35pm ____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20pm: Abbott is a hawk, as are most who support him. What's a "hawk"? I Googled and all I got was a lot about Robert James Lee (Bob) Hawke.
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Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:09pm

Neferti wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:35pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20pm:

Abbott is a hawk, as are most who support him.

What's a "hawk"? Huh

I Googled and all I got was a lot about Robert James Lee (Bob) Hawke. Roll Eyes

Any simpleton can type "political hawk" into a search engine, and come up with the answer to your question. You'd have to go out of your way to manage to get RJ Hawk into the top results.

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Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:22pm

boxy wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:35pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:20pm:

Abbott is a hawk, as are most who support him.

What's a "hawk"? Huh

I Googled and all I got was a lot about Robert James Lee (Bob) Hawke. Roll Eyes

http://i.imgur.com/Ufbr5ej.gif

Any simpleton can type "political hawk" into a search engine, and come up with the answer to your question. You'd have to go out of your way to manage to get RJ Hawk into the top results.

OK, I tried it again and I had obviously typed HAWKE into Google .... ooops.

So a "political hawk" is described as:

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A war hawk, or simply hawk, is a term used in politics for someone favoring war in a debate over whether to go to war, or whether to continue or escalate an existing war. War hawks are the opposite of doves.

When was Abbott a war mongerer?

So, if Abbot is a "hawk" who is a "dove"? Roll Eyes

PS. Nice to see you here Boxhead, still being rude to me, I see. Wink

Are you still on Aussie's "team"? Grin

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