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Reply #15 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:36am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:33am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:22am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

...that's not free speech.

Just like a fake triple 0. Throw the book at the wenkers

It is freedom of speech because it is artistic expression.

Nothing artistic about scaring people about a terrorist attack. Not these days. They aren't to know it's fake. Throw the book at the wenkers.

Do you read? It was allllll staged.

How were members of the public witnessing this to have known that? How would Police driving by know that? Gawd, you're starting to come across as dumber than GW, and that's something!!!

Police driving by can stop and ask. If they shoot then ask it's murder. As for bystanders, what bystanders? It's clear in the videos the kids did the artistic expressions on empty streets.

You are such a fcken idiot seriously. Terrorism has you so scared you are okay with police trying to control the masses to such an extent it is obvious that freedom of speech has been suppressed. You're one of those useful 1di0ts used by dictators to keep power over people.

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Reply #16 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:34am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:31am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:23am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:51am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:24am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

...that's not free speech.

Just like a fake triple 0. Throw the book at the wenkers

It is freedom of speech because it is artistic expression.

..so ringing triple 0 as a prank, is artistic expression in your book? Huh

is it ringing triple 0 or pretending to ring triple 0 but actually ringing a staged triple 0, for the purposes of artistic expression?

Get off it swag - for a guy who claims to want small government you are happy to see government interfere in absolutely ridiculous areas. Such as charging kids for making a youtube video.

You miss the point. What if Police had driven past and seen them doing that? They could've been shot dead. Not to mention how traumatised members of the public can be by such an idiotic prank.

If the police saw them and decided to shoot instead of restrain then it would be murder. And again, no trauma - it was all stAgggged. Plus why do you care about trauma? You're one of those "ooooh racism is so pc today". You know how many people are left traumatised be caused of racism? Be consistent!!

Wow, you're simply not making any sense now. I'll leave you to finish your bottle.

Did you support the proposed abolition of the racial discrimination act?

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Reply #17 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:44am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:33am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:22am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

...that's not free speech.

Just like a fake triple 0. Throw the book at the wenkers

It is freedom of speech because it is artistic expression.

Nothing artistic about scaring people about a terrorist attack. Not these days. They aren't to know it's fake. Throw the book at the wenkers.

Do you read? It was allllll staged.

How were members of the public witnessing this to have known that? How would Police driving by know that? Gawd, you're starting to come across as dumber than GW, and that's something!!!

Police driving by can stop and ask. If they shoot then ask it's murder. As for bystanders, what bystanders? It's clear in the videos the kids did the artistic expressions on empty streets.

You are such a fcken nice person seriously. Terrorism has you so scared you are okay with police trying to control the masses to such an extent it is obvious that freedom of speech has been suppressed. You're one of those useful 1di0ts used by dictators to keep power over people.

Police: "Um, excuse us but are you real terrorists or is this fake?"

Terrorists: "Er, this is fake!"

Fifteen minutes later they blow a hole in parliament house.

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Reply #18 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:49am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:33am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:22am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 1:13am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

...that's not free speech.

Just like a fake triple 0. Throw the book at the wenkers

It is freedom of speech because it is artistic expression.

Nothing artistic about scaring people about a terrorist attack. Not these days. They aren't to know it's fake. Throw the book at the wenkers.

Do you read? It was allllll staged.

How were members of the public witnessing this to have known that? How would Police driving by know that? Gawd, you're starting to come across as dumber than GW, and that's something!!!

Police driving by can stop and ask. If they shoot then ask it's murder. As for bystanders, what bystanders? It's clear in the videos the kids did the artistic expressions on empty streets.

You are such a fcken nice person seriously. Terrorism has you so scared you are okay with police trying to control the masses to such an extent it is obvious that freedom of speech has been suppressed. You're one of those useful 1di0ts used by dictators to keep power over people.

Police: "Um, excuse us but are you real terrorists or is this fake?"

Terrorists: "Er, this is fake!"

Fifteen minutes later they blow a hole in parliament house.

So police should never ascertain a situation and shoot first? You're such a tool!!!!

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Reply #19 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107154 Melbourne Gender:	Re: more suppression of free speech Reply #20 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:09am I thought the videos were real. I didn't know that everyone in them was an actor:
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Reply #21 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:44am

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am:

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

Really? So now the only way to express oneself is to go and take out a council permit to close down a street and declare a movie set? How about we look as reason here. The kids put together a YouTube video. They had actors. They did it in obvious quiet areas.

That's it, that's all there is to it. Cops are being overZealous as always.

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Reply #22 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:49am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:09am:

I thought the videos were real.
I didn't know that everyone in them was an actor:

Yes, if it was a proper sketch show, everyone would be applauding. But because it's a garage production and the cops got a little upset we all have to be outraged.

I commend the kids for following obvious talents. Well done.

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Reply #23 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:52am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am:

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

Really? So now the only way to express oneself is to go and take out a council permit to close down a street and declare a movie set? How about we look as reason here. The kids put together a YouTube video. They had actors. They did it in obvious quiet areas.

That's it, that's all there is to it. Cops are being overZealous as always.

Clearly your head is a brain-free zone.

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Reply #24 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:52am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am:

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

Really? So now the only way to express oneself is to go and take out a council permit to close down a street and declare a movie set? How about we look as reason here. The kids put together a YouTube video. They had actors. They did it in obvious quiet areas.

That's it, that's all there is to it. Cops are being overZealous as always.

Clearly your head is a brain-free zone.

Thank you for thathe constructive opinion armpit. No need to get upset because you are a useful 1d10t.

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Reply #25 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:57am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am:

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

Really? So now the only way to express oneself is to go and take out a council permit to close down a street and declare a movie set? How about we look as reason here. The kids put together a YouTube video. They had actors. They did it in obvious quiet areas.

That's it, that's all there is to it. Cops are being overZealous as always.

I admit I haven't seen a lot of random pedestrians in the videos. But if you only have one cameraman, and a cop or concerned citizen can't see that it is staged, things could go bad very quickly. The 'making of' videos I have (briefly) seen do not show any effort to prevent this.

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Reply #26 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:01am

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 6:57am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

freediver wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 4:56am:

To what extent was it staged? Are we talking a movie set here?

If you are waving a gun around in an apparent committal of a crime, and point it at a police officer who stumbles across your idiocy, you are going to get shot. If a member of the public thinks you are committing a serious crime and takes the opportunity to hit you on the head with the nearest heavy object, you won't get much sympathy.

Really? So now the only way to express oneself is to go and take out a council permit to close down a street and declare a movie set? How about we look as reason here. The kids put together a YouTube video. They had actors. They did it in obvious quiet areas.

That's it, that's all there is to it. Cops are being overZealous as always.

I admit I haven't seen a lot of random pedestrians in the videos. But if you only have one cameraman, and a cop or concerned citizen can't see that it is staged, things could go bad very quickly. The 'making of' videos I have (briefly) seen do not show any effort to prevent this.

It's like any prank out there. In fact others are worse for actually using unaware participants. There is no damage to public property and there is no showing of public indecency or nuisance. The cops should've treated it as nothing more then a misunderstanding. Instead, perhaps to save face, but more likely to warn others of doing similar videos, the cops are proceeding to punish people for expressing their art. It's like we are living in putin Russia.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107154 Melbourne Gender:	Re: more suppression of free speech Reply #27 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:07am Maybe the cops could use these guys as part of their terrorist training exercises?
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: more suppression of free speech Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:25am Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:07am: Maybe the cops could use these guys as part of their terrorist training exercises? Maybe the cops should spend their resources doing things that matter? I'm still waiting for them to process fingerprints from when my house was robbed. It's only been 2 years.
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Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 7:28am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

The cops are insane in this issue - why are we wasting time and money on what is obviously a prank????

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/they-were-all-actors-jalals-admit-girl-in-driv...

Their insistence to charge these pranksters is nothing more than an attempt to suppress acts of free speech from ordinary citizens.

only an absolute flogger would defend these wannabe terrorists..

I hope they get whats coming to the smart assed greasy maggots...

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