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Re: more suppression of free speech
Reply #270 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
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It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.'
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Re: more suppression of free speech
Reply #271 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:42pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 
Theres no mistake,  like i said, ask your "police friends" about it. You are apparently "continuously" talking to them about your internet postings here.
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Re: more suppression of free speech
Reply #272 - Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:57pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:42pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 
Theres no mistake,  like i said, ask your "police friends" about it. You are apparently "continuously" talking to them about your internet postings here.

they enjoy laughing at you with me Wink  Especially when you don't understand what 'running into danger' means. Grin
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Reply #273 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:41pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 


Did you make a mistake about the streets being empty?

How about criminals never wearing disguises?
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Re: more suppression of free speech
Reply #274 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 10:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 


Did you make a mistake about the streets being empty?

How about criminals never wearing disguises?


Where did I say criminals never wear disguises?  Why are you misrepresenting what i said? Get your little highlighter out.
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Reply #275 - Mar 5th, 2016 at 7:33am
 
You claimed that the fake beards would indicate to a cop that it is staged. Can you explain this logic?

Can you also explain how you make the leap from being specifically wrong, every single time, to claiming that you are 'generally' right based on the 'whole picture'?

Alevine's arguments so far

* of course they did
* you agree with me
* doing "nothing at all" to prevent the situation escalating counts as a "good effort"
* the streets were empty (except for all those people caught on film in the background)
* the people caught on film in the background couldn't possibly have noticed what was going on, but if they did, they would have known it was staged
* OK, the streets weren't empty, but they chose a time that was convenient for them. Does that count?
* criminals never wear disguises
* crimes are never caught on film
* if you were a gambling man, you'd bet on them surviving
* a cop faced with an automatic weapon will stop and have a look around and realise that crimes are never filmed and criminals never wear disguises
* a kidnapping, bombing or shooting is really no different to a picnic in the park or a game of cricket.
* cops never shoot people accidentally
* it is OK to get shot if it is the cop's fault and their gun gets taken away
* suicide by cop is a fundamental human right, so long as it results from stupidity and crazy ideas about freedom, rather than intent
* what are the Darwin awards?
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Reply #276 - Mar 5th, 2016 at 12:00pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:57pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:42pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
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you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 
Theres no mistake,  like i said, ask your "police friends" about it. You are apparently "continuously" talking to them about your internet postings here.

they enjoy laughing at you with me Wink  Especially when you don't understand what 'running into danger' means. Grin
No they arent, because they dont exist. the only one who is laughing is me at you, at your futile immature attempt to try and maintain you have some sort of real life knowledge on this subject. if you behave like this on internet forums trying to impress total strangers you have a lot of growing up to do. Anyone who has worked in the job or who works in the job knows what being trained to run towards  danger means, its not a part of some "game plan" or "strategy"  as you seem to think, it is simply overcoming the fight or flight response to respond towards danger in order to control or immobilise, instincts become immediately reactive when faced with potential imminent danger in this situation, andrenaline is high, heart rate is up and response depends on gross motor skills not fine motor skills. Most people who are continually placed in these types of situations experience dissociation, a removal from basic emotions. Another term for this is "the fog of war". Many people when faced with a perceived life threatening situation who have responded as per their training dont even remember doing so. Lots of people have been shot dead waving toy guns around, like I said people have been shot for waving rubber knives around, this is not even debatable. Conversely people have often been given medals for displaying "courage" when responding to these events. 
Youre now dismissed.
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Reply #277 - Mar 6th, 2016 at 8:36pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 5th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:57pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:42pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:36pm:
ian wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:07pm:
[

you do understand that 'running into danger' isn't implied in real life in a literal way, right?
yes, thats exactly what it means.
Quote:
It means they won't leave the scene, but they aren't going to go into the scene blind folded and just start shooting at everyone.
i understand it very well. and no, thats not what it means. ask your "police friends" about it. 

I'll take it as you have no idea again drunk batman Smiley. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I made a mistake, I am sorry.' 
Theres no mistake,  like i said, ask your "police friends" about it. You are apparently "continuously" talking to them about your internet postings here.

they enjoy laughing at you with me Wink  Especially when you don't understand what 'running into danger' means. Grin
No they arent, because they dont exist. the only one who is laughing is me at you, at your futile immature attempt to try and maintain you have some sort of real life knowledge on this subject. if you behave like this on internet forums trying to impress total strangers you have a lot of growing up to do. Anyone who has worked in the job or who works in the job knows what being trained to run towards  danger means, its not a part of some "game plan" or "strategy"  as you seem to think, it is simply overcoming the fight or flight response to respond towards danger in order to control or immobilise, instincts become immediately reactive when faced with potential imminent danger in this situation, andrenaline is high, heart rate is up and response depends on gross motor skills not fine motor skills. Most people who are continually placed in these types of situations experience dissociation, a removal from basic emotions. Another term for this is "the fog of war". Many people when faced with a perceived life threatening situation who have responded as per their training dont even remember doing so. Lots of people have been shot dead waving toy guns around, like I said people have been shot for waving rubber knives around, this is not even debatable. Conversely people have often been given medals for displaying "courage" when responding to these events. 
Youre now dismissed.


People have received medals for shooting people with rubber knives?  Citation please Grin

You know what I like about you, Ian? You seem to think you actually have some knowledge. Except you are probably one of the dumber types on this forum.  Of course police are trained to run into danger. But stopping first to assess a situation before blatantly shooting at people is not contrary to this. You knucklehead Grin. Te very fact you fail to understand the difference of "running into danger" and "shooting indiscriminately because you feel threatened" tells me two things: either you are a child, or you come from a very restricted society where individual thinking was not encouraged.
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Reply #278 - Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:22pm
 
Alevine you claimed that the fake beards would indicate to a cop that it is staged. Can you explain this logic?
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Reply #279 - Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Alevine you claimed that the fake beards would indicate to a cop that it is staged. Can you explain this logic?



what about the fake guns???....

surely the cops are trained to spot  them as well?..
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Reply #280 - Mar 10th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
I'm sure the police are trained to prioritise the fair treatment of gun wielding imbeciles over the safety of the public and themselves.

"Excuse me, do you mind if I check your gun is real before drawing my own on you?"
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