freediver wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:


That was my first reference point for trying to find him saying...

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There is literally nothing even remotely related to muslims "wiping Israel off the map". Same with forcing the jews to live as dhimmis in the Islamic state. You inferred it all. That is just a simple fact.

You were caught out FD, I understand your embarassment - constantly being caught out for coming up with fabricated claims about what Abu or Falah said must take its toll. But lashing out with these grudge threads, and not even being able to come up with a single relevant quote to vindicate your crap claims - and even more embarassing, coughing up quotes that are at the very least problematic for your narrative - is probably not the best way to respond.

Thanks Andrei, I guess thats settled then: based on the testimony of your two cousins, FD's baseless made up crap about what Falah (sometimes known as Abu) suddenly becomes not baseless or made up at all.

Another case closed thanks to a useless and completely irrelevant anecdote from Andrei 

You're right Andrei, it really is a stunning revelation. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that occupied people would ever be rude or hostile towards occupation soldiers.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 17^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:


How are they problematic Gandalf?

Do you still think Falah wants peaceful coexistence with Israel?

Do you feel compelled to put a positive spin on what he said on account of him being a fellow Muslim?

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 7:04am:


Are you asking me to explain how his actual words that "Israelis could be good neighbours" is problematic to your allegation - with no evidence - that he asserted that Israel must be wiped off the map?

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 7:04am:


No, I'd rather just focus on what he actually said and not spin anything. The truth is I don't hold much regard for anything Falah has said (what I've read), and its quite possible he does want the destruction of Israel. But there is no indication of that sentiment in any of the quotes you have produced. Would you agree that stating that he wants to wipe Israel off the map and not coming up with any relevant quote stating such a thing, and instead basing it solely on words like "total victory" without any explanation of what that actually means - is the very definition of spin?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 18^th, 2016 at 10:42am:


Here you go, FD. You can use this quote the next time you want to prove G agreeing with everything Falah (Abu) said because he's a fellow Muslim.

No hard feelings, G, but FD has the best intentions in mind.

He blames Islam.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

qur'an 5.51: O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.



The stones are going to tell the muslims where the Jews are hiding, so that muslims can kill the Israelites.

Or a rather tame example of islam where the qur'an merely says don't take Jews and Christians as friends.

We've all read the scores of verses which promote irrational islamic hatred and murder of non muslims, apostates and hypocrites.

The truthful premise is:

As long as islam exists there will never be peace on this earth.

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Yes.

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Did he actually say any of the things you attributed to him?

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We have landed back on the spin cycle.