You said he "actually advocates peaceful coexistence with Israel", and that you came to this conclusion by "digging" through his posts. This is pretty much the exact opposite of what he promotes.

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:02am:


Note the subtle change in language here - from "opposite of what he said" to now "opposite of what he promotes".

This is understandable of course - not even you can sustain the argument that he "said" he wanted to wipe Israel off the map and enslave jews etc on any of the evidence we have so far. So now its downgraded to merely "promoted". This is the mental gymnastics you are forced into when attempting to spin "Israelis could live as good neighbours" as "muslims want to wipe Israel off the map".

Note the subtle change in language here - from "opposite of what he said" to now "opposite of what he promotes".

And I'm also still wondering how the points I made which amount to:
a) interpreting his calling on the ending of aggression and ending the occupation as a call to end the occupation of the West Bank

b) interpreting his claim that "Israelis could live as good neighbours [if they end the occupation]" as suggesting that the state of Israel and the muslim nations can live peacefully side by side

- can be interpreted as "the exact opposite of what he promotes"

And yet in just the last post you felt it necessary to introduce a whole swag of new stuff that helps us understand the context of Falah's otherwise vague and non-specific quotes:

Funny how none of that is mentioned in the OP.

If you pick and choose a few choice phrases from any person, and push the interpretation of them to the limit, you could paint them as saying the opposite of what they think.

Would you say it is 'heavily inferred'?

So you cannot heavily infer anything from all his references to Israel, but you can heavily infer what he thinks about the state of Israel when he does not actually use the word Israel?

I do not recall the UN saying that full victory against Israel is just around the corner, by the grace of God almighty, or that Muslims ought to maintain the violence and killing.

Can you quote them?

United Nations Security Council resolution 1435, adopted on 24 September 2002, after recalling resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 1397 (2002), 1402 (2002) and 1403 (2002), the Council demanded the end to Israeli measures in Ramallah, including the destruction of Palestinian infrastructure.[1]

The Security Council reiterated its concern at events that had taken place in the region since September 2000 and their deterioration, particularly terrorist attacks against civilians in Israel and at a Palestinian school in Hebron. It demanded the end of the occupation of the headquarters of the President of the Palestinian Authority Yasser Arafat. Furthermore, there was alarm at the reoccupation of Palestinian cities and restrictions on the freedom of movement of people and goods and the need for all to respect the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949.

The resolution reiterated the need for a complete cessation of all acts of violence, demanding that Israel end measures in and around Ramallah and to withdraw occupying forces from Palestinian cities to positions held before September 2000.[2] The Palestinian Authority was called upon to ensure that those responsible for the terrorist acts would be brought to justice. It also supported further diplomatic efforts by the Quartet on the Middle East and others in the region and recognised the initiative adopted at the Arab League Summit in Beirut which stated that peace between Israel and the Palestinians could be achieved through the abandonment of the right to return of Palestinian refugees in exchange for the establishment of a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders and the sharing of Jerusalem.[3]

Resolution 1435 was adopted by 14 votes to none against and one abstention from the United States. American representatives John Negroponte and John Cunningham stated that the country would not support a "one-sided resolution" which did not explicitly condemn the terrorists or those who gave them safe haven.[4]