So when you claimed the UN said pretty much the same thing as Falah, you were referring to Falah's effort to explain what the UN said?

Gandalf, this quote from Falah was in my opening post:

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How does this fit in with your insistence that Falah's hostility to Israel is limited to retaking the west bank?

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:48am:


You're incredible. Trully you are.

I "heavilly infer" that by "Israeli" he means exactly what Israeli means - a citizen of Israel. Now here's where we get into the spin: apparently your idea of "spin" is to accept that when someone uses a word, they mean something different to what it actually means. Does that sound reasonable to you?

Admit this at least FD: the true meaning of "Israeli" is a citizen of the state of Israel, and by definition, the word cannot strictly be used if the state of Israel does not exist - or as you put it, has been "wiped off the map".

Is that all you've got left FD? vacuous ad-hominems?

You're not even bothering with the issue any more.

'Israelis' literally means citizens of the state of Israel - correct? An 'Israeli' then, cannot by definition exist without the existence of the state of Israel. Yet apparently its me whose engaging in spin for accepting that he means what he actually says.

Can you at the very least acknowledge the indisputable fact that your interpretation relies on the assumption that he doesn't mean what he says - ie that when he says "Israelis" he doesn't actually mean "Israelis", but stateless jews living as subjects in an Islamic state - even though he doesn't even mention muslims 'wiping Israel off the map' and forcing jews to live as their subjects?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 2:20pm:


FD's the new Moses. He'll be calling for death to all Muslims and their apologists next.

Actually, FD has already inferred this.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 2:20pm:


He means people who are currently citizens of Israel - Israelis. Even I would still call them that if I anticipated the end of the state of Israel. If he called them "stateless jews living as subjects in an Islamic state" instead, we wouldn't know who he was actually talking about. Even "ex-citizens of the no-longer existing state of Israel" would be an unnecessary convolution.

Do you honestly believe the crap you are spinning Gandalf? I would assume this is a windup, but it is hard to tell with Muslims.

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No Gandalf, I was merely hoping to get you to stop acting like a Nazi apologist.

Gandalf, this quote from Falah was in my opening post:

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How does this fit in with your insistence that Falah's hostility to Israel is limited to retaking the west bank?

Is it really plausible that Muslims and gays unite?

by BREITBART LONDON 19 Mar 2016
Thousands of hard-left, ‘anti-racism’ protesters have been bused into London today by a wide array of groups including the British equivalent of ‘Black Lives Matter’, trades unions, Muslim pressure groups, and senior Labour Party representatives.

“All you Muslim people, LGBT people and black people uniting against what? Racism! Are you with me?” opened Lee Jasper, a race relations activist and politician, who served as Senior Policy Advisor on Equalities to the former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone.



Are Muslims really on a shared platform with LGBT people and black people? Is opposition to gay marriage racists so Muslims support gay marriage because that's what anti-racist solidarity requires? Are Muslims in favour of gay marriage?