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But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:09am

Mother and former midwife escape jail over the female genital mutilation of two young sisters – despite being the first people in Australia found guilty of the horrific crime

A mother convicted of genital mutilation of her daughters might escape jail.
Justice Peter Johnson does not want the children punished by losing her.
Former nurse Kubra Magennis, 72, may also escape jail because of her age.

Here's a judge who deserves jail-time himself for setting a precedent that's going to be used time and again by Defence Lawyers in future cases.

Despite the butchery committed being described as a 'horrific crime' - one of these knuckle-dragging 7th century neo-Neanderthal throw-backs avoids jail because her daughters need her (Hellooo .. ?) - and the other slack-jawed morón gets a reprieve from jail for reasons of age - even though she's a whole 23 years younger than Rolf Harris ...

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It's PRECISELY because of stories like this one - year in, year out - with both those charged and the court judges and magistrates showing themselves to be in collusion with utter stupidity - that people like Donald Trump are seen by so many as a possible solution to this sort of abuse of commonsense.

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 10:29am

But of course.

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All have been given minimum 11-month terms, but may never go to prison.

They are on bail and will return to court on April 22 to learn whether they will serve their time in jail or via home detention.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137820 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie. Inaccurate thread Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?
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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #3 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie.

Inaccurate thread

Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?

They've got kids, so home detention would make much more sense than the state placing their kids in foster care for 11 months.

Their "punishment" is not the real issue here. The real issue is the legal precedent of a custodial sentence.

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Reply #4 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:10pm

The children should LEARN why their mother is in JAIL ...

They should be ASKING why their mother is in jail ...

The mutilated girls whose future sex lives have been butchered by their knuckle-dragging MUSLIM mother should be asking WHY the Australian court describes what was done to them as being ... quote: "a horrible crime".

With the mother at home - the kids won't realise their mother has committed a ... quote: "horrible crime" .. because here they will see her doing everything she normally does ... the cooking, the TV, EVERYTHING.

The government makes laws to cover ... quote: 'horrible crimes' ... and then the liberal-progressive luvvies who infest our judiciary system REFUSE to act upon these laws.

Jail - and then deportation for this woman's entire extended family is the justice that would fit this .. quote: "horrible crime".

Thank god people like Donald Trump are beginning to show up as prospective politicians to replace the limp-wristed cowards we've had for the past few decades.

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Reply #5 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:10pm:

The government makes laws to cover ... quote: 'horrible crimes' ... and then the liberal-progressive luvvies who infest our judiciary system REFUSE to act upon these laws.

That's just not true, Herbie.

The mother has been charged, convicted, and sentenced.

Nobody has refused to act upon the law. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #6 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:52pm WHERE are the feminists in all of this? WHY aren't they out on the streets screaming their heads off about this obscenity? The rationale behind the butchery of these Muslim girls is that by rendering them incapable of sexual enjoyment they will remain loyal to their future husbands. Muslims again.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74667 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #7 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:59pm Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:52pm: WHERE are the feminists in all of this? WHY aren't they out on the streets screaming their heads off about this obscenity? but it's all you have done.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137820 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:04pm Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:52pm: WHERE are the feminists in all of this? Here.
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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #9 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:52pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie.

Inaccurate thread

Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?

They've got kids, so home detention would make much more sense than the state placing their kids in foster care for 11 months.

Their "punishment" is not the real issue here. The real issue is the legal precedent of a custodial sentence.

Word on the street will be that for FGM there is no jail time.
The people who are likely to do FGM need things set out in very black and white term.
Cut the clit, don't pass Go.

Also, I have FIRST HAND knowledge of how women with children are used to commit certain kinds of crime because when caught they are given suspended or very light sentence.

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Reply #10 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:56pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie.

Inaccurate thread

Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?

They've got kids, so home detention would make much more sense than the state placing their kids in foster care for 11 months.

Their "punishment" is not the real issue here. The real issue is the legal precedent of a custodial sentence.

Word on the street will be that for FGM there is no jail time.
The people who are likely to do FGM need things set out in very black and white term.
Cut the clit, don't pass Go.

Do you believe that sending people to jail will stop others from committing the same offence?

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #11 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:56pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie.

Inaccurate thread

Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?

They've got kids, so home detention would make much more sense than the state placing their kids in foster care for 11 months.

Their "punishment" is not the real issue here. The real issue is the legal precedent of a custodial sentence.

Word on the street will be that for FGM there is no jail time.
The people who are likely to do FGM need things set out in very black and white term.
Cut the clit, don't pass Go.

Do you believe that sending people to jail will stop others from committing the same offence?

Prison isn't a 100% effective deterrent, but it does serve as a deterrent for some.

Do you believe it's no deterrent at all?

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #12 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:03pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:10pm:

The children should LEARN why their mother is in JAIL ...

They should be ASKING why their mother is in jail ...

The mutilated girls whose future sex lives have been butchered by their knuckle-dragging MUSLIM mother should be asking WHY the Australian court describes what was done to them as being ... quote: "a horrible crime".

With the mother at home - the kids won't realise their mother has committed a ... quote: "horrible crime" .. because here they will see her doing everything she normally does ... the cooking, the TV, EVERYTHING.

The government makes laws to cover ... quote: 'horrible crimes' ... and then the liberal-progressive luvvies who infest our judiciary system REFUSE to act upon these laws.

Jail - and then deportation for this woman's entire extended family is the justice that would fit this .. quote: "horrible crime".

Thank god people like Donald Trump are beginning to show up as prospective politicians to replace the limp-wristed cowards we've had for the past few decades.

At the age of 7 or 8, I don't think the girls are capable of understanding why. I definitely think they should learn one day, and will.

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #13 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:56pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

Somebody beat you to the troll, Herbie.

Inaccurate thread

Maybe you could find something new, on The Pickering Post?

They've got kids, so home detention would make much more sense than the state placing their kids in foster care for 11 months.

Their "punishment" is not the real issue here. The real issue is the legal precedent of a custodial sentence.

Word on the street will be that for FGM there is no jail time.
The people who are likely to do FGM need things set out in very black and white term.
Cut the clit, don't pass Go.

Do you believe that sending people to jail will stop others from committing the same offence?

Sure. It says genital mutilation is a jailable offence. This carries more weight.

The main point of the sentencing in this case is how to prevent FGM. It's a test case. This is not common practice in Australia, but Australians see this as a barbaric practice that needs to be stopped.

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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #14 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence. If the mum gets home detention, Greggy's going to send $20 to my favorite cause.
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