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Reply #90 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:35pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:32pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:47pm:

But you ARE carrying on like a pork chop about people criticizing the judges request to have them assessed for home detention, and carrying on like a HUGE pork chop that people dared to preempt the actual order.

There's certainly a porcine odour coming from you, Homo, and Herbie, et al.

I'm just showing respect for the rule of law.

Why do you have such little respect for our legal process - are you a criminal?

The rule of law was just fine, but time and time and time again the judiciary get sentencing so so so wrong.
This seems to be one of those times.

Nice resort to ad hominem. All class.

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Round and round we go. They're going to get home detention.
I personally feel that's a less than adequate outcome. Let's wait and see

Sorry, Gordy, are you saying let’s wait and see?

Oh, my God, that’s heinous spineless apologism of the highest order! It’s carrying on like a pork chop!

Oh, when will these people ever learn?

I'd put $1k on the mum getting HD

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95926 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #91 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:49pm I’d just like to know what home detention is and how many people are sentenced to it. As you can see, Gordy, I’m a pork chop too.
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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #92 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:52pm

But Justice Peter Johnson told the mother who arranged the female genital mutilation on her two daughters, and the midwife who carried it out, that they would have got a tougher sentence if the offences were committed after May 20, 2014 when parliament increased the maximum penalty from seven to 22 years.

What an utter farce.

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Justice Johnson told the three that he had sentenced them based on the maximum penalty of seven years for genital mutilation, which existed at the time of the offences in 2009 and 2012.

What an utter travesty of justice.

No wonder Muslims have utter contempt for our judges and our courts.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95926 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #93 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:59pm Herbie, of course, is completely balanced and unemotional about the issue.
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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #94 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:06pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:49pm:

I’d just like to know what home detention is and how many people are sentenced to it.

As you can see, Gordy, I’m a pork chop too.

http://www.judcom.nsw.gov.au/publications/benchbks/sentencing/home_detention_ord...

[4-040] Substantially less onerous than prison

The court held in R v Jurisic (1998) 45 NSWLR 209 at 215 that home detention is a substantially less onerous sentence than imprisonment within the confines of a prison. Home detention should not be equated with full-time incarceration

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Reply #95 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:11pm

Of course it’s less onerous, Gordy, it would be ridiculous to argue otherwise.

I’m asking if it’s a common sentence in Australia and what criteria is used to assess people for it. What sort of crimes and offenders are candidates? What restrictions are placed on them?

I too would like to wait and see, but as we all know, I’m a hysterical spineless apologist and pork chop.

Utter farce. Utter travestry. Hideous contempt. Despicable appeasement.

I guess I’ll be dealt with in the fullness of time, no?

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Reply #96 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:13pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:59pm:

Herbie, of course, is completely balanced and unemotional about the issue.

What 'balance' is there in a 'stay at home order' when the maximum sentence was 7 years in jail for mothers of small girls - and which has now been raised to 22 years jail for mothers of small girls?

Those sentencing provisions were made in the full knowledge that the jail time would be applied to mothers of small girls - and yet here we have this apologist idíot of a judge protecting the identity of the mother because of her girls, and exempting her from going to jail - because of the girls.

He has made a travesty and a laughing stock of the law.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95926 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #97 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:19pm Have you got a law link, Herbie? Now I am curious. Something other than a UK tabloid article would be nice, thanks. It would be good to look at this with all the evidence and make up our own minds, but I’m hysterical that way, as you know.
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Reply #98 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:43pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:47pm:

But you ARE carrying on like a pork chop about people criticizing the judges request to have them assessed for home detention, and carrying on like a HUGE pork chop that people dared to preempt the actual order.

There's certainly a porcine odour coming from you, Homo, and Herbie, et al.

I'm just showing respect for the rule of law.

Why do you have such little respect for our legal process - are you a criminal?

The rule of law was just fine, but time and time and time again the judiciary get sentencing so so so wrong.
This seems to be one of those times.

Nice resort to ad hominem. All class.

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Round and round we go. They're going to get home detention.
I personally feel that's a less than adequate outcome. Let's wait and see

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137833 Gender:	Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools! Reply #99 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:54pm Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:59pm: Herbie, of course, is completely balanced and unemotional about the issue. There's no way in the world that you held a straight face while typing that.
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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #100 - Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 7:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:43pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:47pm:

But you ARE carrying on like a pork chop about people criticizing the judges request to have them assessed for home detention, and carrying on like a HUGE pork chop that people dared to preempt the actual order.

There's certainly a porcine odour coming from you, Homo, and Herbie, et al.

I'm just showing respect for the rule of law.

Why do you have such little respect for our legal process - are you a criminal?

The rule of law was just fine, but time and time and time again the judiciary get sentencing so so so wrong.
This seems to be one of those times.

Nice resort to ad hominem. All class.

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Round and round we go. They're going to get home detention.
I personally feel that's a less than adequate outcome. Let's wait and see

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Up to 7 years is possible. 15 months is at the low end of whats available, no?

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #101 - Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:17am

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 7:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:43pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:47pm:

But you ARE carrying on like a pork chop about people criticizing the judges request to have them assessed for home detention, and carrying on like a HUGE pork chop that people dared to preempt the actual order.

There's certainly a porcine odour coming from you, Homo, and Herbie, et al.

I'm just showing respect for the rule of law.

Why do you have such little respect for our legal process - are you a criminal?

The rule of law was just fine, but time and time and time again the judiciary get sentencing so so so wrong.
This seems to be one of those times.

Nice resort to ad hominem. All class.

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Round and round we go. They're going to get home detention.
I personally feel that's a less than adequate outcome. Let's wait and see

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Up to 7 years is possible. 15 months is at the low end of whats available, no?

How is it "wrong"?

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #102 - Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:17am:

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 7:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:43pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 6:47pm:

But you ARE carrying on like a pork chop about people criticizing the judges request to have them assessed for home detention, and carrying on like a HUGE pork chop that people dared to preempt the actual order.

There's certainly a porcine odour coming from you, Homo, and Herbie, et al.

I'm just showing respect for the rule of law.

Why do you have such little respect for our legal process - are you a criminal?

The rule of law was just fine, but time and time and time again the judiciary get sentencing so so so wrong.
This seems to be one of those times.

Nice resort to ad hominem. All class.

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Round and round we go. They're going to get home detention.
I personally feel that's a less than adequate outcome. Let's wait and see

How is 15 months imprisonment "wrong"?

Up to 7 years is possible. 15 months is at the low end of whats available, no?

How is it "wrong"?

I thought the low end of sentencing is given when police cooperation is given and remorse is shown.

In this case police were lied to and remorse was not shown yet the low end of sentencing, 10 months out of a possible 7 years.

Would you say they got the very low end of sentencing?

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Re: But OF COURSE they 'escape' jail, you fools!
Reply #103 - Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:31am

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am:

I thought the low end of sentencing is given when police cooperation is given and remorse is shown.

What made you think that?

Do you have a reference to legislation, or guidelines, that set out this law/policy?

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am:

Would you say they got the very low end of sentencing?

It's at the low end, yes.

How is that "wrong"?

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Reply #104 - Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:31am:

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am:

I thought the low end of sentencing is given when police cooperation is given and remorse is shown.

What made you think that?

Do you have a reference to legislation, or guidelines, that set out this law/policy?

GordyL wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am:

Would you say they got the very low end of sentencing?

It's at the low end, yes.

How is that "wrong"?

Defending minorities again I see. It's not only wrong the sentence is atrocious numptoid.

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