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Reply #30 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

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Reply #31 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 1:56pm:

Do you believe that sending people to jail will stop others from committing the same offence?

IT would no doubt give pause to those mothers who are contemplating butchering their daughters to realise that if caught they will spend many months away from their home and daughter.

It wouldn't stop them.

People who want to commit crimes don't think about what happens if they're caught (because most think that they never will be).

Several states in the US have the death penalty: do people still commit murder in those states?

Well Herbie, do they?

Think about it, and then think about how silly your "argument" is.

Once again, your (faux) outrage is based on bigotry & ignorance, as opposed to rational thought & justice.

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Reply #32 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

An example MUST be set of every mother who is caught and convicted of this heartless barbarity.

Agreed.

And it has.

This mother has been given a sentence of 15 months imprisonment.

Did you miss that part, Herbie?

Yes, but you must admit, Herbie did read the headline.

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Reply #33 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

What makes you think that they have to go into a state institution?

They have been sentenced to 15 months imprisonment. No mention of a state institution.

Do I really need to explain this to you?

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Reply #34 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:40pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Weak, feminized judges are not big fans of genital mutilation, Herbie.

And yes, I think a custodial sentence is quite appropriate in this case - with the limited info I have.

Thank you.

It is an incredible abomination that small girls - (regardless of being 'Muslims') - are having their future enjoyment of sex denied them by a slice of the razor-blade.

That is a life-sentence. It's irreversible. It's like rendering these girls in such a way as they can only see in black-and-white for the rest of their lives - so they'll stay loyal to their husbands.

An example MUST be set of every mother who is caught and convicted of this heartless barbarity.

An example has been set (if they're given HD) that for FGM, you don't go to jail.

The people who do FGM are unlikely to understand the nuances in sentencing and what HD means.
They will only understand the take home message.
FGM = no jail.

Yes, I'm wondering what home detention is myself.

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Reply #35 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:41pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

An example MUST be set of every mother who is caught and convicted of this heartless barbarity.

Agreed.

And it has.

This mother has been given a sentence of 15 months imprisonment.

Did you miss that part, Herbie?

Yes, but you must admit, Herbie did read the headline.

And what a wonderful headline (lie) it is.

"Mother and former midwife escape jail over the female genital mutilation of two young sisters".

Followed by the truth, which is:

"A mother convicted of genital mutilation of her daughters might escape jail".

Dear o dear o dear.

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Reply #36 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

What makes you think that they have to go into a state institution?

They have been sentenced to 15 months imprisonment. No mention of a state institution.

Do I really need to explain this to you?

So if you were convicted of an offense and sentenced to 12 months, would you prefer custodial or home detention?
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Reply #37 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:44pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

What makes you think that they have to go into a state institution?

They have been sentenced to 15 months imprisonment. No mention of a state institution.

Do I really need to explain this to you?

So if you were convicted of an offense and sentenced to 12 months, would you prefer custodial or home detention?

Anything but a prison.

Your point?

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Reply #38 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:44pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

What makes you think that they have to go into a state institution?

They have been sentenced to 15 months imprisonment. No mention of a state institution.

Do I really need to explain this to you?

So if you were convicted of an offense and sentenced to 12 months, would you prefer custodial or home detention?

Home detention.

Your point?

Home detention is the softest option given to offenders and provides no deterrence to other offenders.

You do know that sentencing is partially made up of a deterrence factor, judges mention it all the time.

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Reply #40 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm:

You know you live in a country full of do-gooders when you can get home detention for mutilating two little girls genitalia. Unbelievable.

Funny how the judge spoke very harshly of the offenders and noted how serious the crimes were, and how all involved were unremorseful, then in the next breath referred them for home detention.

How bizarre.

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Reply #41 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:53pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:44pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:38pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:30pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Can't wait until they've decided on the sentence.

The sentence has already been handed down: 15 months imprisonment.

If you had read the story, you would know that.

In which of out states fine institutions will they be spending their time?

What makes you think that they have to go into a state institution?

They have been sentenced to 15 months imprisonment. No mention of a state institution.

Do I really need to explain this to you?

So if you were convicted of an offense and sentenced to 12 months, would you prefer custodial or home detention?

Home detention.

Your point?

Home detention is the softest option given to offenders.

Incorrect.

Have you ever heard of a suspended sentence?

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Reply #42 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:55pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm:

You know you live in a country full of do-gooders when you can get home detention for mutilating two little girls genitalia. Unbelievable.

Funny how the judge spoke very harshly of the offenders and noted how serious the crimes were, and how all involved were unremorseful, then in the next breath referred them for home detention.

How bizarre.

The same judge that sentenced them to 15 months imprisonment - is that the one you're talking about?

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Reply #43 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:55pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm:

You know you live in a country full of do-gooders when you can get home detention for mutilating two little girls genitalia. Unbelievable.

Funny how the judge spoke very harshly of the offenders and noted how serious the crimes were, and how all involved were unremorseful, then in the next breath referred them for home detention.

How bizarre.

The mother going to jail and leaving the kids became an issue. It's never an issue when other people go to jail and leave their kids. Very bizarre Gordy.

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Reply #44 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:55pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:49pm:

You know you live in a country full of do-gooders when you can get home detention for mutilating two little girls genitalia. Unbelievable.

Funny how the judge spoke very harshly of the offenders and noted how serious the crimes were, and how all involved were unremorseful, then in the next breath referred them for home detention.

How bizarre.

The mother going to jail and leaving the kids became an issue. It's never an issue when other people go to jail and leave their kids.

It's always an issue.

Where have you been?

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