freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Muslims just respected diversity and the Christians of Pakistan on Easter Sunday.

At least 70 dead due to Islam's respect for diversity - in a Muslim majority country.  Another blow has been struck for Muslim employment and integration everywhere.  And the Paki Secret Service wouldn't know about it. Yeah right.



At Arncliffe in Sydney,
"Police hunt shooters after 23-year-old man suffers multiple gunshot wounds in Arncliffe"

It never ends. Different story, same people.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:


No answer then.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 7:55pm:


A lot of Pakistani Christians were also killed on Easter Sunday.

It made the headlines because it demonstrates the one way tolerance of Islam versus the rest of the world: Muslims are tolerated despite their daily outrages.

And because it happened in Scotland. Christians are killed every day, in great numbers, by Muslims in Muslim countries and you bemoan the fact that Westerners do not like Muslims killing ANYONE in the West, let alone another Muslim who wishes his compatriots happy Easter.

Your hypocrisy is staggering. Why do Western Muslims tolerate anyone among them who will kill another Muslim for wishing happy Easter in Scotland??  You have had at least 15 years to clense your communities of such evil Muslims - but their numbers have only grown.

Their numbers have only grown because Western Muslims have tolerated them, excused them, encouraged and harboured them.  If Western Muslms were really serious about eradicating Muslim terrorism in the West, it would have happened by now.

But you are not serious. You excuse, you blame the victims, you are deflecting.

You are simply not fair dinkum, that's the problem. If you were serious there would be no Western Muslim terrorism.  It is very simple and that is why it must not be said.ii

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:


Oh ?

And how do you come to that conclusion gandalf ???

     .....you would have to first prove 1/ that Asad Shah was a moslem who was actually following a set of 'peaceful' tenets, of ISLAM,         .....AND, 2/ prove that ISLAM does not prohibit religious and political pluralism !



polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:


The inference in your post #20 is wholly unsubstantiated.

To prove that Asad Shah

"believed in and practiced pluralistic Islam"

you would need to prove that tenets of ISLAM do not prohibit religious and political pluralism.


"pluralistic Islam"     ???

Where is it gandalf ???



THE HADITH....

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260


ISLAMIC LAW....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06



"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111




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polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:


Oh ?

And how do you come to that conclusion gandalf ???

     .....you would have to first prove 1/ that Asad Shah was a moslem who was actually following a set of 'peaceful' tenets, of ISLAM,         .....AND, 2/ prove that ISLAM does not prohibit religious and political pluralism !



polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:


The inference in your post #20 is wholly unsubstantiated.

To prove that Asad Shah

"believed in and practiced pluralistic Islam"

you would need to prove that tenets of ISLAM do not prohibit religious and political pluralism.


"pluralistic Islam"     ???

Where is it gandalf ???


THE KORAN....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4





"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

Frank wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:14pm:


Frank wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:14pm:


Excuse me while I interrupt your crocodile tears over christian victims, but a minor detail that you probably didn't (want to) consider - a) most of the people killed in the Lahore attack were muslim and b) the overwhelming majority of victims of Islamic terror are muslims. Something like 95%+.

But please, continue lecturing me about hypocrisy.

And now you know that muslims overwhelmingly bear the brunt of Islmaic terrorism, do you think that is a little inconvenient for your muslim hive-mind narrative, where we're all on the same page about wanting to slaughter christians? Tell me what are your thoughts on the muslims in Lahore celebrating easter with christians?

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:


Thank you captain obvious, I totally didn't know that a minority of nutters can cause problems.

Do you think Mr Asad Shah was the only muslim in the west that wished a christian a happy easter?

Quote:


Why would you assume that?

I celebrate christmas and easter with my non-muslim family, not that it has anything to do with it. Must be awfully sinister eh? Just another 'grinning muslim' I suppose? How about we keep childish attempts at personal insults out of this hmm?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 12:27pm: