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Reply #45 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 2:02pm
 
islam the cult of the damned.

islam is an accumulation of the hatreds and perversions espoused by muhammad.

Asad Shah was doomed from the start. He was one of those who muhammad / allah portrayed as the evil hypocrite.

Asad Shah would have sat down to pee because muhammad did, played with his penis after urinating because muhammad did, crouched down to take off his pants because muhammad did, put his right boot on first because muhammad did, put his right leg into his pants first because muhammad did, stepped in and out of the toilet in the same manner as muhammad did, slept in a certain way (knees bent on your right side) because muhammad did, most likely married his cousin because muhammad did, sat on the floor to eat because muhammad did, ate with his right hand because muhammad did, ate with three fingers because muhammad did, sat down to drink because muhammad did, drank in three breaths because muhammad did, etc. etc..

Asad Shah's entire life was taken up by loving, worshipping and obeying muhammad.

Yet muhammad preached hatred towards the Asad Shahs of the world.

Just one example of many in islam

qur'an 5.80: Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the Unbelievers. Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result), that Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.

Asad Shah offered friendship to non muslims, according to allah / muhammad this made him an evil person and he was to be killed.

muslims and their apologists can lie about the principles of islam till the cows come home, they will never make islam anything other than what it is: a cult of killers, the cult of the damned.

Of course they know they can't change anything, for this would destroy islam, so the blood will keep flowing, just as muhammad intended.
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Reply #46 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 4:21pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 12:12pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:14pm:
A lot of Pakistani Christians were also killed on Easter Sunday.


Frank wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:14pm:
Christians are killed every day, in great numbers, by Muslims in Muslim countries


Excuse me while I interrupt your crocodile tears over christian victims, but a minor detail that you probably didn't (want to) consider - a) most of the people killed in the Lahore attack were muslim and b) the overwhelming majority of victims of Islamic terror are muslims. Something like 95%+.

But please, continue lecturing me about hypocrisy.

And now you know that muslims overwhelmingly bear the brunt of Islmaic terrorism, do you think that is a little inconvenient for your muslim hive-mind narrative, where we're all on the same page about wanting to slaughter christians? Tell me what are your thoughts on the muslims in Lahore celebrating easter with christians?




So then Islam is fine? We should let in more Pakistanis?

WHat's your point?  Islam is even more evil towards Muslims? That's a good thing and so Muslims targeting Christians should be not noticed?

What IS your point? Muslims want tolerance but don't give it, not even to their fellow Muslims??

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Reply #47 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:00pm
 
More bigotry.  More trolling.  Stop wasting our time.  Muslims are victims.  Non-Muslims exact a terrible revenge.   Time you woke up to who the real victims are in all of this.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #48 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:49pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
What rubbish.

Its like saying there will be a lot less labour party gatherings in Norway after Anders Brievik's rampage.

It was a single incident - name me one other incident in the west where a muslim has been murdered, or even attacked by other muslims for being nice to Christians. I can't think of any. And thats why its world headline news and we're all talking about it - because it almost never happens. Far more muslim women are physically attacked in the west for wearing a hijab, but there's no evidence less women wear the hijab.



I think he did a lot more than being nice to Christians.

How many attacks does it take? Very few cartoonists have been killed by Islamic extremists, but that is more than enough to make cartoonists think twice about drawing a cartoon of Muhammed. While your fellow Muslims were destroying freedom of speech, you were busy telling everyone it was a non-issue.

What do you think the 'nutters' will move onto once all the newspapers are afraid to publish Muhammed cartoons?

ISIS has decided to focus on exterminating the hypocrits among them, and you always go on about Muslims targeting other Muslims with their terrorism, so maybe this is not as 'out of character' as you portray.
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Reply #49 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:59pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
What rubbish.

Its like saying there will be a lot less labour party gatherings in Norway after Anders Brievik's rampage.

It was a single incident - name me one other incident in the west where a muslim has been murdered, or even attacked by other muslims for being nice to Christians. I can't think of any. And thats why its world headline news and we're all talking about it - because it almost never happens. Far more muslim women are physically attacked in the west for wearing a hijab, but there's no evidence less women wear the hijab.


What about all the honour killings of Muslim girls who look at Western boys or go out with them or just dress like Western girls? Far, far too many of them are killed by their families for - being nice to non-Muslims.

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Reply #50 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:02pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
More bigotry.  More trolling.  Stop wasting our time.  Muslims are victims.  Non-Muslims exact a terrible revenge.   Time you woke up to who the real victims are in all of this.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

So it makes Islam OK because it inspires Muslims to kill other Muslims? It makes Islam OK because its victims are Muslims?

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Reply #51 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 4:21pm:
WHat's your point?


Your entire narrative is about the hive-mind muslim horde all vying for western blood. Acknowledging the vast majority of muslim victims of terrorism would contradict this hive-mind narrative. Thats why you ignore it and talk only about christian and non-muslim victims of terror - even though these victims comprises less than 5% of the victims of Islamic terrorism.

Acknowledging 58 dead muslims out of 74 victims at the Lahore Easter celebration would obviously necessitate acknowledging a large number of muslims celebrating easter with christians - and that obviously is unacceptable. So you pretend all the victims were christian.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #52 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
How many attacks does it take?


More than one.
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Reply #53 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:33pm
 
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Your entire narrative is about the hive-mind muslim horde all vying for western blood.


Gandalf in all my time here, you are the one I have actually seen apply this have-mind term to Muslims.

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Acknowledging 58 dead muslims out of 74 victims at the Lahore Easter celebration would obviously necessitate acknowledging a large number of muslims celebrating easter with christians


You sure about that Gandalf?
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Reply #54 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
How many attacks will it take before you’re too scared to publish Muhammed cartoons, FD?

I’m curious. Will you answer?
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Reply #55 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:36pm
 
No idea. I feel obliged to let people post them here. If I came up with my own that was good enough to go viral I think I would be putting myself in genuine danger if I published it.
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Reply #56 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
No idea. I feel obliged to let people post them here. If I came up with my own that was good enough to go viral I think I would be putting myself in genuine danger if I published it.


Yes, but have you been threatened? Censured? Been issued with a fatwa?

Or in your own words, has the Muselman taken your Freeeeeedoms away?
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Reply #57 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:49pm
 
We had a Muslim here threatening to sue me a while back. That is as close as it has come.
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Reply #58 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:00pm
 
Right. So what would your answer be to the question you asked G?

How many attacks does it take?
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Reply #59 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:09pm
 
Not many. That's the point of the strategy. You only have to kill a few if you target it properly. They have been very successful against authors, publishers and film makers. Cartoonists are the current target. After that, who knows? People who openly criticise Islam are too big of a target at the moment. They need another edge to chip away at.

In ISIS territory I would expect all the "good" Muslims to be making a genuine effort to be backwards conservative Muslims, lest they get accused of hypocrisy and end up on the chopping block. The Jews are too big and powerful.

Whatever stage the Muslims are at for taking over their society, they are slowly chipping away at people's rights and freedoms.
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