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Reply #45 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:55am
 
If you get any of these and bash unions you need to go in Monday Tuesday( Silly me you would be enjoying a public holiday ) and tell your boss its impossible to be a pretender and you wish  to relinquish these on the spot .

Annual Leave


Paid Annual Leave was first won after a campaign by printing workers in 1936. The Arbitration Commission granted the workers paid leave, which was then gained by other workers through their unions in different industries. Annual leave loading of 17.5 per cent was first won by workers in the Metal Industry in 1973.

Awards

Awards are legally binding documents that set out the minimum entitlements for workers in every industry. The first industrial award, the Pastoral Workers Award was established by the Australian Workers Union in 1908, mainly covering shearers. The shearers had experienced a terrible deterioration of their wages and conditions during the 1897 Depression and decided to take action to protect working people. Since 1904, awards have underpinned the pay and terms and conditions of employment for millions of workers. Awards are unique to Australia and integral in ensuring workers get 'fair pay for a fair day's work'.

Penalty Rates

Penalty rates were established in 1947, when unions argued in the Arbitration Commission that people needed extra money for working outside normal hours.

Maternity leave

Australian unions’ intensive campaigning for paid parental leave ended in victory with the introduction of the Paid Parental leave scheme by the Gillard Labor government. Under the scheme, working parents of children born or adopted after 1 January 2011 are entitled to a maximum of 18 weeks’ pay on the National Minimum Wage.

Superannuation

Prior to 1986, only a select group of workers were entitled to Superannuation. It became a universal entitlement after the ACTU's National Wage Case. Employers had to pay 3% of workers' earnings into Superannuation. This later increased to 9% and on November 2, 2011 the ACTU and its unions’ “Stand Up for Super” campaign celebrated another win for working Australians, when the Labor Government moved to increase the compulsory Superannuation Guarantee to 12% over 6 years from 1 July 2013 to 1 July 2019.

Equal Pay for Women

Although there were attempts to introduce equal pay going back as far as 1949, the principle of equal pay for women was finally adopted by Australian Conciliation and Arbitration Commission in 1969.

Health and Safety and Workers' Compensation

Workers compensation laws first came into existence in West Australia in 1902. For many years unions agitated and campaigned for health and safety laws which compelled employers to provide a safe working environment. In Victoria, legislation was introduced in 1985 which saw the active role of workers in maintaining safety on the job. Building unions agitated for many years to ban the use of asbestos, finally succeeding in the 1980’s.

Sick leave

Before sick leave, you turned up to work if you were sick, or you went without pay. Sick leave provisions began to appear in awards in the 1920’s and unions have campaigned hard for better sick leave conditions over the years, across all industries.

Long service leave

Coal workers went on strike in 1949 over a 35 hour week and Long service leave. Long service leave was finally introduced in New South Wales in 1951. Unions in other states followed.

Redundancy pay

The Arbitration Commission introduced the first Termination, Change and Redundancy Clause into awards due to work by metalworkers and their union. This entitled workers to redundancy pay.

Allowances: shift allowance, uniform allowance

Unions in different industries have campaigned for allowances that pertain to their members. Many workers who are required to wear uniforms in their jobs, get an allowance for this rather than having to pay for uniforms themselves.

Shift allowances are money that's paid for working at night or in the afternoon. Different industries have different allowances that were won by workers and their unions over the years.

Meal Breaks, rest breaks

Before unions agitated for meal breaks and rest breaks to be introduced, workers were required to work the whole day without a break. In 1973, workers at Ford in Melbourne engaged in industrial action over many issues, one of their demands being a proper break from the production line.

Collective Bargaining

Enterprise Bargaining was introduced in 1996 which allowed workers and their unions to negotiate directly with their employer over pay and conditions. Evidence from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that collective bargaining delivers better wages than individual agreements for ordinary workers.

Unfair Dismissal Protection

Unfair Dismissal Protection came from the concept of a "fair go all round", after the Australian Workers Union took a case to the Conciliation and Arbitration Commission on behalf of a worker who had been unfairly sacked in 1971. Since then, unions have campaigned for laws that reflect that 'fair go' principle, which is about having a valid reason to sack someone and that the dismissal cannot be harsh, unjust or unreasonable.
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #46 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:59am
 
How many of the rightards are working today ?

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Reply #47 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:22am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:11am:
not that I am defending this guys behaviour, it's deplorable and childish

but Swag, aren't you a fan of user pays?

if the fridge/shed belong to the union, why should non members be allowed to use it?



since when do unions put refreshment sheds on construction sites?  it was provided by the company, not the union.
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Reply #48 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:25am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:36am:
why should non members enjoy the facilities that members fought and still pay their dues for?


They shouldn't.

Simple as that.

Low-life parasites.




the problem with that simplistic thinking is that it assumes that current conditions are the result of current union members - and they arent.  the union members that fought for these conditions are all long dead.  unions today do not offer much  - which is why they have just 15% of the workforce.  maybe they shoudl start offering and actual service and see if their membership increases.
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Reply #49 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:26am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:44pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:36am:
why should non members enjoy the facilities that members fought and still pay their dues for?


They shouldn't.

Simple as that.

Low-life parasites.



Do you hold the same thoughts about non-taxpayers Pecker? 



everyone pays tax swag.


You didn't answer where it says the employee's amenities belonged to the union?


It doesn't say who the fridge belongs to.

you ever found a fridge on a non union site? I've worked on thousands of sites with no fridge. No shed, only a milk crate (which I had to bring along) to sit on.
It doesn't matter who the fridge belongs to, if it wasn't for the unions the fridge would not be there, nor would the shed or any of the other facilities. You don't want to join the union, don't use the facilities they bring to the table.



the unions brought the fridge?  you are so stupid.
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #50 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:26am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:59am:
How many of the rightards are working today ?



How many of the rightards are working today ?


I bet they would demand  penalty rates if they did work today.
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #51 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:28am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:35pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm:
It doesn't matter who the fridge belongs to, if it wasn't for the unions the fridge would not be there, nor would the shed or any of the other facilities. You don't want to join the union, don't use the facilities they bring to the table.


Hallelujah!


.....so only union members can buy fridges?  Roll Eyes

Maybe in Peckerland.  Cheesy


Read it again.

"It doesn't matter who the fridge belongs to, if it wasn't for the unions the fridge would not be there, nor would the shed or any of the other facilities. You don't want to join the union, don't use the facilities they bring to the table."


If the company paid for the fridge, they only did so because of the Union.




highly presumptive and entirely speculative.  given it was a $100M job, I am sure buying a fridge for the site was a small consideration.
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Reply #52 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:30am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:41pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm:
It doesn't matter who the fridge belongs to, if it wasn't for the unions the fridge would not be there, nor would the shed or any of the other facilities. You don't want to join the union, don't use the facilities they bring to the table.


Hallelujah!


.....so only union members can buy fridges?  Roll Eyes

Maybe in Peckerland.  Cheesy


that's right swag, keep ignoring the reality and hope your dumb comments will save you.


Has Swaggie ever benefited from any of these?

Thanks to Unions ...



I always tell those opposed to unions to refuse any benefit they obtain that were given to them by unions ... funnily enough no one has yet taken me up on my suggestion




then why arent you a paid-up, tithing member of a church?  Churches introduced, schools, art, music, healthcare and social welfare.  If you use ANY of these benefits then you should be at church and paying due respect - WITH MONEY.
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Reply #53 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:34am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:30am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:41pm:
Swagman wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm:
It doesn't matter who the fridge belongs to, if it wasn't for the unions the fridge would not be there, nor would the shed or any of the other facilities. You don't want to join the union, don't use the facilities they bring to the table.


Hallelujah!


.....so only union members can buy fridges?  Roll Eyes

Maybe in Peckerland.  Cheesy


that's right swag, keep ignoring the reality and hope your dumb comments will save you.


Has Swaggie ever benefited from any of these?

Thanks to Unions ...



I always tell those opposed to unions to refuse any benefit they obtain that were given to them by unions ... funnily enough no one has yet taken me up on my suggestion




then why arent you a paid-up, tithing member of a church?  Churches introduced, schools, art, music, healthcare and social welfare.  If you use ANY of these benefits then you should be at church and paying due respect - WITH MONEY.


Sensible people don't contribute to make believe  Cheesy
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #54 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:38am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:32am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:09am:
What has been achieved in the past does not justify the union thugs and corruption we see today.



Pay your dues or f off to another industry , it doesn't get any simpler


Union thuggery is never excusable.
Ever.
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Reply #55 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:42am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:36am:
why should non members enjoy the facilities that members fought and still pay their dues for?


They shouldn't.

Simple as that.

Low-life parasites.




the problem with that simplistic thinking is that it assumes that current conditions are the result of current union members - and they arent.  the union members that fought for these conditions are all long dead.  unions today do not offer much  - which is why they have just 15% of the workforce.  maybe they shoudl start offering and actual service and see if their membership increases.


the problem with that simplistic thinking is that it assumes that current conditions are the result of current union members

Nobody makes that assumption. When the foundation is flawed the argument falls down.
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #56 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:53am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:38am:
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:32am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:09am:
What has been achieved in the past does not justify the union thugs and corruption we see today.



Pay your dues or f off to another industry , it doesn't get any simpler


Union thuggery is never excusable.
Ever.


I prefer subtle psychological pressure on those that think they will be enjoying the fruits without joining, I love what he did but I knew it wouldn't be long before the liberal gestapo would come for him
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Re: Gold Coast union ‘thug’ fined
Reply #57 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:57am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:42am:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:36am:
why should non members enjoy the facilities that members fought and still pay their dues for?


They shouldn't.

Simple as that.

Low-life parasites.




the problem with that simplistic thinking is that it assumes that current conditions are the result of current union members - and they arent.  the union members that fought for these conditions are all long dead.  unions today do not offer much  - which is why they have just 15% of the workforce.  maybe they shoudl start offering and actual service and see if their membership increases.


the problem with that simplistic thinking is that it assumes that current conditions are the result of current union members

Nobody makes that assumption. When the foundation is flawed the argument falls down.



I can always rely on you to MISS THE POINT.  if current unions and their members are not the ones that provided current conditions then our obligation to current unions is NIL.


as pointed out earlier, I dont see you all running off the church to thank them for the society you inherited - courtesy of the Church who initiated education, health care, science, art music and pretty much everything else - including social welfare.
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Reply #58 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:58am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:53am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:38am:
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:32am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:09am:
What has been achieved in the past does not justify the union thugs and corruption we see today.



Pay your dues or f off to another industry , it doesn't get any simpler


Union thuggery is never excusable.
Ever.


I prefer subtle psychological pressure on those that think they will be enjoying the fruits without joining, I love what he did but I knew it wouldn't be long before the liberal gestapo would come for him



The Church looks forward to your attendance - and tithing.  You can thank them there for the schooling you got, the healthcare you receive and the technology you enjoy courtesy of the science that was initiated by the Church.
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Reply #59 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:59am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:38am:
Its time wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:32am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:09am:
What has been achieved in the past does not justify the union thugs and corruption we see today.



Pay your dues or f off to another industry , it doesn't get any simpler


Union thuggery is never excusable.
Ever.


You would think that to be obvious... but alas, you would be wrong.
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