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longweekend58
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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 28 th, 2016 at 1:49pm: longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28 th, 2016 at 11:13am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 28 th, 2016 at 9:59am: " the Church who initiated education, health care, science, art music and pretty much everything else"
Actually it was the work of the early Union movement that created the environment in which those things could be applied universally, and as something more than the province of the privileged time-rich 'upper classes'. The most significant achievement was the abolition of child labour and then women's labour through the fight for a single living wage (something that arrived on the backs of the dead from two World Wars), which created the environment in which universal education could flourish. All the other things followed on for the MASSES as a direct consequence....
Assuming that means the Unions who actually created that environment in which all got a chance to flourish instead of a privileged few, are the 'past' Unions and thus have no relevance to the modern day, is a falsehood, since they have remained and will remain the bulwark against intrusion by self-interested bosses, who seek to remove and destroy conditions for personal gain, and by doing so, seek to recreate a 'golden' age in which business flourished in isolation while the workers were nothing but usable and disposable serfs entitled only to what the boss chose to hand out.
If you think that equates to irrelevance in the modern age.... you are blind. that was almost entirely fiction - and bad fiction at that. You never heard of the abolition of child labor by... A CHRISTIAN who also acheived the worlds first age of consent law (10 years). all this was done in opposition to the enthrenched leadership who wanted these things to continue. it was the church that instituted social welfare, education for the masses and healthcare. Ever wondered why so many schools and hospitals are named after saints etc? there is a clue there for you to consider. A rather diaphanous and unsupported comment there, Longie.... as opposed to:- https://www.continuetolearn.uiowa.edu/laborctr/child_labor/about/us_history.html
"Forms of child labor, including indentured servitude and child slavery, have existed throughout American history. As industrialization moved workers from farms and home workshops into urban areas and factory work, children were often preferred, because factory owners viewed them as more manageable, cheaper, and less likely to strike. Growing opposition to child labor in the North caused many factories to move to the South. By 1900, states varied considerably in whether they had child labor standards and in their content and degree of enforcement. By then, American children worked in large numbers in mines, glass factories, textiles, agriculture, canneries, home industries, and as newsboys, messengers, bootblacks, and peddlers.
In the early decades of the twentieth century, the numbers of child laborers in the U.S. peaked. Child labor began to decline as the labor and reform movements grew and labor standards in general began improving, increasing the political power of working people and other social reformers to demand legislation regulating child labor. Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined, and common initiatives were conducted by organizations led by working women and middle class consumers, such as state Consumers’ Leagues and Working Women’s Societies. These organizations generated the National Consumers’ League in 1899 and the National Child Labor Committee in 1904, which shared goals of challenging child labor, including through anti-sweatshop campaigns and labeling programs. The National Child Labor Committee’s work to end child labor was combined with efforts to provide free, compulsory education for all children, and culminated in the passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which set federal standards for child labor."
Further reading (if you wish to bother - most find it too hard since it usually destroys their pre-conceived notions and brings undone their rhetoric):- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citizenship/struggle_democracy/child...http://www.ilo.org/public/english/standards/relm/gb/docs/gb277/pdf/d2-abol.pdf maybe you shoudl try googling Lord Shaftsbury from a full 100 years before that time. but you wont and even if you did, you are incapable of understanding that child labor laws in the USA in 1938 were not what was being addressed - rather obviously.
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