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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #165 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:00am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

Of course its necessary.

So its ok for 2 trained people to subdue a violent attacker but not ok for 2 untrained people to subdue a violent attacker. Quite a bizarre train of thought. Do you think the threat from the violent offender is less because the restrainers are untrained?
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Police officers usually grapple they don't use punches and kicks or ashtrays and other improvised weapons otherwise they would subdue their attacker much quicker.

pepper spray or the taser is often the first recourse to avoid grappling and consequent risk of injury. Anything else you dont know? Are you competing with John Smith?

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #168 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #173 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:10am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

And? 2 untrained people. Positional asphyxiation is reasonably common, coppers are trained to avoid this because of the large number of incidents over the years. I wouldnt expect untrained people to even know about this. Would you?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75238 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #174 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:13am it's actually very difficult to deliberately break someones neck. ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:00am: Are you competing with John Smith? got a hard on for me Ian? Sorry, but I don't play that way ... you'll have to go back to your regular boyfriend.
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #175 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:15am

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:10am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

And? 2 untrained people. Positional asphyxiation is reasonably common, coppers are trained to avoid this because of the large number of incidents over the years. I wouldnt expect untrained people to even know about this. Would you?

asphyxiation I could understand because they might not know how long to hold it but not breaking his neck.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #176 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:16am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

Of course its necessary.

Police officers usually grapple they don't use punches and kicks or ashtrays and other improvised weapons otherwise they would subdue their attacker much quicker.

They subdue, and arrest.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #177 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:16am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

Of course its necessary.

Police officers usually grapple they don't use punches and kicks or ashtrays and other improvised weapons otherwise they would subdue their attacker much quicker.

They subdue, and arrest.

These days they shot first and ask questions latter.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #178 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am

John Smith wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

it's actually very difficult to deliberately break someones neck.

The cervical vertebrae are much more susceptible to injury than the thoracic. A rabbit chop in the right spot on the back of the neck will break it easily. As usual you have made a completely superfluous absurd comment based on your zero knowledge of the subject at hand.

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #179 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am: To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness. You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.
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