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Reply #180 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:20am

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

it's actually very difficult to deliberately break someones neck.

The cervical vertebrae are much more susceptible to injury than the thoracic. A rabbit chop in the right spot on the back of the neck will break it easily. As usual you have made a completely superfluous absurd comment based on your zero knowledge of the subject at hand.

Easier said than done.

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Reply #181 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:21am

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

Well yes that's what I'm arguing.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #183 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:22am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:10am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

And? 2 untrained people. Positional asphyxiation is reasonably common, coppers are trained to avoid this because of the large number of incidents over the years. I wouldnt expect untrained people to even know about this. Would you?

asphyxiation I could understand because they might not know how long to hold it but not breaking his neck.

Its quite easy to break someones neck, pressure on the right spot and bingo. It happens reasonably frequently in contact sports like grappling and in real life.

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Reply #184 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:23am

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

Incorrect.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #185 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:25am what wrong with this thread, posts aren't getting through...??
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #186 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:26am

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

it's actually very difficult to deliberately break someones neck.

The cervical vertebrae are much more susceptible to injury than the thoracic. A rabbit chop in the right spot on the back of the neck will break it easily. As usual you have made a completely superfluous absurd comment based on your zero knowledge of the subject at hand.

So you're saying you have to hit in a specific spot Ian? Grin

Like I said, it's actually difficult to break someones neck deliberately

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Reply #187 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:27am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:16am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:54am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

Of course its necessary.

Police officers usually grapple they don't use punches and kicks or ashtrays and other improvised weapons otherwise they would subdue their attacker much quicker.

They subdue, and arrest.

These days they shot first and ask questions latter.

No, they only use their weapons when defending themselves or the public.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #188 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:27am

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

no, no ... according to Ian, it;'s just a quick rabbit chop, while yelling kia and making weird noises, and the jobs done Grin

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #189 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:30am

John Smith wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Like I said, it's actually difficult to break someones neck deliberately

Dont keep proving yourself an idiot, we already are aware of that fact. if its easy to break someones neck unintentionally as many people in wheelchairs would testify then why would it be difficult to break it intentionally?

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #190 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:31am Heres the perp. One less. http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/f560bb742910725a20d6f4c8228fc21b
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Reply #191 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:31am

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

Incorrect.

No matter which way you cut it, it would have to be a determined effort to break some ones neck.

Therefore this scummy thief picked an alleged murderers house to break into.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #192 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:32am

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

Incorrect.

No, placing somebody in a headlock if done correctly renders them unconscious by cutting off the blood-flow to the brain via the carotid arteries in the neck. The risk is if they suffer from an existing condition, which is why it is not allowed when subduing an offender. However, I am CORRECT in my previous statement.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #193 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:33am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:31am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:04am:

To break some ones neck you would have to hold on to that head lock way after he loses consciousness.

You do not break somebody's neck unless you twist very violently whilst in a headlock. That would be intentional.

Incorrect.

No matter which way you cut it, it would have to be a determined effort to break some ones neck.

as i have shown, that is incorrect. many, many necks are broken accidentally. Dont let Johns intellectual vacuousness infect you, there is a chance to learn something here.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #194 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 11:34am

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

I think they should go to jail for manslaughter.

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

The home intruder doesn't look like a small man from the photos I have seen so it's absurd to claim it's unfair because of two on one considering the homeowner suffered facial injuries.

The citizens arrest laws gave them every right to detain him until police arrived, can anyone cite any exceptions to citizens arrest laws that say you cannot chase a criminal who broke into your home and assaulted you into the street or limiting it to a single person to detain a criminal?

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