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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #210 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:34pm

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

If I found someone inside my house I would fight like a wild animal, if I do subdue him then I'm not going to kill him.

To break someones neck you must have the head lock way after he passes out.

Sounds like this person is more of a scum than the intruder to me.

That's a rather extraordinary statement don't you think?
So far all we know is dead guy has a criminal history and we know nothing about the man who was charged except he was home at 330am with his family when this big unit came into his house.

Did dead guy threaten to murder his whole family? Was he in a meth rage?

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #211 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

'citizens arrest' is a misnomer. no such permission exists. In general there is the ability to restrain an offender, but you could be charged with asasult if you hurt the person and if they are innocent or the offence deemed trivial you can be charged. you never havt the actual legal right to 'arrest' as this is the sole province of sworn officers.

Nope.

"All States have a legal basis to make a citizen’s arrest. In NSW it’s under Section 100 of the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002. It reads:

(1) A person (other than a police officer) may, without a warrant, arrest a person if:

      (a)    the person is in the act of committing an offence under any Act or statutory instrument, or

      (b)    the person has just committed any such offence, or

      (c)    the person has committed a serious indictable offence for which the person has not been tried."

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #212 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

'citizens arrest' is a misnomer. no such permission exists. In general there is the ability to restrain an offender, but you could be charged with asasult if you hurt the person and if they are innocent or the offence deemed trivial you can be charged. you never havt the actual legal right to 'arrest' as this is the sole province of sworn officers.

"The legislation that allows you, in appropriate circumstances, to make a citizen's arrest, states:

A person who is NOT a police officer may, without warrant, arrest another person if he or she believes on reasonable grounds that the other person is committing or has just committed an offence."

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #213 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:02pm ......
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #218 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:35pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

If I found someone inside my house I would fight like a wild animal, if I do subdue him then I'm not going to kill him.

To break someones neck you must have the head lock way after he passes out.

Sounds like this person is more of a scum than the intruder to me.

That's a rather extraordinary statement don't you think?
So far all we know is dead guy has a criminal history and we know nothing about the man who was charged except he was home at 330am with his family when this big unit came into his house.

Did dead guy threaten to murder his whole family? Was he in a meth rage?

There's no excuse for breaking his neck.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #219 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:38pm The intruder just got out of the can (jail) and straight away he is breaking into houses. He deserved what he got. He looks like a big man and it would be intimidating to wake up and see him going through your gear. If he wasn't an a b bo I doubt anybody would be making a fuss.
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #220 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

If I found someone inside my house I would fight like a wild animal, if I do subdue him then I'm not going to kill him.

To break someones neck you must have the head lock way after he passes out.

Sounds like this person is more of a scum than the intruder to me.

That's a rather extraordinary statement don't you think?
So far all we know is dead guy has a criminal history and we know nothing about the man who was charged except he was home at 330am with his family when this big unit came into his house.

Did dead guy threaten to murder his whole family? Was he in a meth rage?

There's no excuse for breaking his neck.

You're stating as a fact they set out to break his neck and saying they/he is even bigger scum than the guy who entered the house at 330am.

Don't you think you should leave a bit of wiggle room until you hear what dead guy did?
Did dead guy go batsh!t crazy on them? Who knows, you seem to tho.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #221 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:43pm 666
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #222 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:43pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

It was unnecessary, two on one no weapons.

Really? So when 2 police officers arrest a violent offender thats unnecassary?

If I found someone inside my house I would fight like a wild animal, if I do subdue him then I'm not going to kill him.

To break someones neck you must have the head lock way after he passes out.

Sounds like this person is more of a scum than the intruder to me.

That's a rather extraordinary statement don't you think?
So far all we know is dead guy has a criminal history and we know nothing about the man who was charged except he was home at 330am with his family when this big unit came into his house.

Did dead guy threaten to murder his whole family? Was he in a meth rage?

There's no excuse for breaking his neck.

Yeah but stating as a fact they set out to break his neck and saying they/he is even bigger scum than the guy who entered the house at 330am.

Don't you think you should leave a bit of wiggle room until you hear what dead guy did?
Did he go batsh!t crazy on them? Who know, you seem to tho.

Just seems a bit extreme, he's a big boy but wasn't armed.

Ok lets wait and see how the story unfolds.

I still think the original victim is headed for jail time though.

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2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 107095 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #223 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:45pm Let's wait for the trial - the cops may even drop the charges.
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #224 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 1:53pm

ian wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Lonmgweekend should write a book, "Things I dont know"

You should write one called 'things I know'. it will be very long, very extensive and very, very wrong. You claim expertise on almost every subject. Not knowledge mind you, but expertise. You are an expert on virtually every topic. You are happy to disagree with world-regarded experts on these topics as well.

you are a wanker.

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