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Reply #225 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:54pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
Lets humiliate him even further
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he legislation that defines a citizen's powers of arrest
The legislation that allows you, in appropriate circumstances, to make a citizen's arrest, states:

A person who is NOT a police officer may, without warrant, arrest another person if he or she believes on reasonable grounds that the other person is committing or has just committed an offence.
A person who arrests another person shall, as soon as practicable after the arrest, arrange for the other person, and any property found on the other person, to be delivered into the custody of a police officer.
You are legally required to inform the person why you have detained them, unless the suspect's actions make it impractical to inform them.

General guidelines about powers of arrest
You may place a person under citizen's arrest if you believe on reasonable grounds they have committed an offence or are in the course of committing such an offence.
Reasonable grounds means you have direct evidence that 'constitutes belief' that the person has committed an offence. An obvious example of 'reasonable grounds' would be if you were to actually see a customer take an item from a store shelf, put it into their pocket and then walk out of the store with that item, thus indicating a clear intention to not pay for it, and therefore steal it.
Suspicion means you have indirect evidence the customer has committed an offence. Examples of suspicion include: The theft protection buzzer sounds as someone exits the store; a person has spent an inordinate amount of time browsing and is consciously avoiding assistance.
To affect a citizen's arrest you must use clear words and state the reason for your action. Note: To say "I am detaining you" is preferred to "I am arresting you." This is not a legislative requirement, simply a more accepted term, especially if the matter is later considered in the courts. You are also required to tell the person ‘detained’ the reason or offence that you are detaining them for.
In the case of theft, it will be easier to prove that their intention was to commit an offence if you wait until they leave the premises. For offences like assault or criminal damage you do not have to wait until the person has left the business premises before detaining them.
The customer is under no obligation to answer any questions you may ask, but any questions they do answer should be taken down in writing and may be used in court.
The customer is under no obligation to give their name and address to you.

http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and-safety/for-act-businesses/robbery-and-theft/citizens-powers-of-arrest



try detaining someone by citizens arrest when they did nothing wrong and see how it works out. YOU will be arrested yourself.
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Reply #226 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:56pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:53pm:
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Lonmgweekend should write a book, "Things I dont know"



You should write one called 'things I know'.  it will be very long, very extensive and very, very wrong.  You claim expertise on almost every subject. Not knowledge mind you, but expertise. You are an expert on virtually every topic. You are happy to disagree with world-regarded experts on these topics as well.

you are a wanker.


ROFL & LMAO if its not the kettle calling the pot black FFS.(no offence meant Ian)

so says Mr. know it all longweek58
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Reply #233 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:45pm:
Let's wait for the trial - the cops may even drop the charges.


Cops are not permitted to drop the charges. This is murder.
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Reply #234 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:45pm:
Let's wait for the trial - the cops may even drop the charges.


Cops are not permitted to drop the charges. This is murder.
Sure they can. Its self defence. These guys deserve a medal for ridding the world of a child raping piece of human garbage.
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Reply #235 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:23pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:53pm:
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
Lonmgweekend should write a book, "Things I dont know"



You should write one called 'things I know'.  it will be very long, very extensive and very, very wrong.  You claim expertise on almost every subject. Not knowledge mind you, but expertise. You are an expert on virtually every topic. You are happy to disagree with world-regarded experts on these topics as well.

you are a wanker.

Its easy to be more knowledgable than you, no expertise required. Im fairly sure "world regarded experts" also would know about citizens arrest legislation.
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Reply #236 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:08pm:
'citizens arrest' is a misnomer. no such permission exists. In general there is the ability to restrain an offender, but you could be charged with asasult if you hurt the person and if they are innocent or the offence deemed trivial you can be charged.  you never havt the actual legal right to 'arrest' as this is the sole province of sworn officers.


actually, a citizens arrest is not a misnomer and it does exist.  Made one myself in the past.
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Reply #237 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:25pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:45pm:
Let's wait for the trial - the cops may even drop the charges.


Cops are not permitted to drop the charges. This is murder.
Sure they can. Its self defence. These guys deserve a medal for ridding the world of a child raping piece of human garbage.


Is ian offering to commit suicide?
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #238 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:26pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 1:45pm:
Let's wait for the trial - the cops may even drop the charges.


Cops are not permitted to drop the charges. This is murder.
Sure they can. Its self defence. These guys deserve a medal for ridding the world of a child raping piece of human garbage.



I remember a similar case in Melbourne where the "cops" dropped the charges.

They said that no jury would convict the man.
( He also killed an burglar. )
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Reply #239 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 2:26pm
 
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
ian wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 11:30am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Like I said, it's actually difficult to break someones neck deliberately 

Dont keep proving yourself an idiot, we already are aware of that fact. if its easy to break someones neck unintentionally as many people in wheelchairs would testify then why would it be difficult to break it intentionally?



thats your argument?  people in wheelchairs?  did they break their neck rolling over in bed or strechign to reach something?  most of them are in accidents like car accidents, sporting accidents or something traumatic - hardly 'easy'.

breaking a neck is difficult, especially without intent.
Wrong. as i have shown, breaking a neck is easy.


you haven't 'shown' any such thing ... all you've done is flap your gums a lot
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