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Reply #345 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:45pm

cods wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:26pm:

Svengali wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 12:33pm:

GordyL's blather intensity and volume is more related to GordyL's hemorrhoid pain than any purported or feigned indignation.

blathering is that the latest insults the left have

just checking you seem to use it a lot these days..

are you saying you are the only one allowed to have an opinion about anything..

otherwise you will call it blathering??????..

just checking..

This man has been charged with murder .. it doesnt mean he will go to court on that charge..

yes he did [allegedly]kill someone...[was it INTENTIONAL]..

did he plan to kill him????..

it was at best misadventure

at worst manslaughter...

murder.... I doubt very much...

gordy is getting carried away..

and yes i feel for his mother....

no matter how old these bloody sons get mum still feel guilty for their behavior.....

and now hes gone....she has a lot to live with...

but over a certain age everyone has to take full responsibility for their own behavior.....dont take it out on the mum gordy.

Had she not been so vocal in declaring how angelic her biy was, she'd not have come to my attention.

My opinion on Batterham will change as info (and evidence) comes to light. I'm happy to turn my opinion 180deg if supported by the evidence.
At the moment, we only have info about the dead guy.
We know next to nothing about Batterham.

You're right on the murder.
The max it could be is manslaughter.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #346 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him. it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.
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Svengali Gold Member Offline Please don't thank me Posts: 3474 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #347 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:03pm GordyL wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:45pm: I'm happy to turn my opinion 180deg if supported by the evidence. You have peaked too early. Your only available direction now is downward.
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Reply #349 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

When you post a link, I'll put that in the allegation pile until it's been scrutinized.

What we do have as a certainty is the dead guy raped a teenager and had a long criminal record.

Can we agree on that?

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #350 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:01pm

Svengali wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:31pm:

I doubt whether police would have refused bail and would be holding him if they believed Batterham's story.

Note that Ben Batterham was previously in the ADF and may have been a martial arts practitioner.

Evidence so far is aligning with Ricky Slater's family statements:

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Neighbours said that Ben Batterham frequently had guests over for drinks in the evening on the front verandah of the home where Saturday's alleged murder took place.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515018/Father-accused-murdering-intrude...

3:30am is the evening now? Huh

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Reply #351 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:11pm

Svengali wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:31pm:

I doubt whether police would have refused bail and would be holding him if they believed Batterham's story.

Note that Ben Batterham was previously in the ADF and may have been a martial arts practitioner.

Evidence so far is aligning with Ricky Slater's family statements:

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Neighbours said that Ben Batterham frequently had guests over for drinks in the evening on the front verandah of the home where Saturday's alleged murder took place.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515018/Father-accused-murdering-intrude...

You also made disparaging comments about the condition of the house and how it must me a reflection of the occupants.

Now we have information it was bought by his parents as a renovation project.

I must admit, when I saw the condition of the house I wondered what the deal-e-o- was but waited until some information came to light.

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Reply #352 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

That's new. Got a link?

I read it in the newspaper. He was on the 000 call when he told the victim he would kill him and it was recorded. This little bit of evidence is probably why he was charged with murder and bail denied. That makes it very clearly a murder.

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Reply #353 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:37pm

GordyL wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

When you post a link, I'll put that in the allegation pile until it's been scrutinized.

What we do have as a certainty is the dead guy raped a teenager and had a long criminal record.

Can we agree on that?

It's not an allegation. it was part of the police report and they actually have the 000 call recordings of him saying that.

the dead guy is no angel and my pity is small, but the other weirdo DID murder him.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #354 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

That's new. Got a link?

I read it in the newspaper. He was on the 000 call when he told the victim he would kill him and it was recorded. This little bit of evidence is probably why he was charged with murder and bail denied. That makes it very clearly a murder.

Do you know the difference between murder and manslaughter?

Murder = advanced planning.
Manslaughter = get out of my daughters room or I'll kill you.

Anyhoo. Parents are loaded, they will have Sydney silk in their corner. I'd say he'll be ok.

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #355 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:37pm:

GordyL wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

When you post a link, I'll put that in the allegation pile until it's been scrutinized.

What we do have as a certainty is the dead guy raped a teenager and had a long criminal record.

Can we agree on that?

It's not an allegation. it was part of the police report and they actually have the 000 call recordings of him saying that.

the dead guy is no angel and my pity is small, but the other weirdo DID murder him.

What has he done to be a weirdo?
Please post your evidence.
Going nuts for finding someone with a rape conviction in your infant daughters bedroom makes you weird these days?

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #356 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

That's new. Got a link?

I read it in the newspaper. He was on the 000 call when he told the victim he would kill him and it was recorded. This little bit of evidence is probably why he was charged with murder and bail denied. That makes it very clearly a murder.

Which newspaper?

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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #357 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 4:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 3:57pm:

we know batterham killed a man on the front pathway and is heard on the 000 call declaring his intent to kill him.

it sounds a lot like clear-cut murder with not much provocation.

That's new. Got a link?

I read it in the newspaper. He was on the 000 call when he told the victim he would kill him and it was recorded. This little bit of evidence is probably why he was charged with murder and bail denied. That makes it very clearly a murder.

Liar.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139736 Gender:	Re: Charged for defending your own home Reply #358 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:55pm "The Telegraph reported the triple-0 emergency call Batterham made that morning recorded sounds of the fight, and Batterham allegedly making threats against Mr Slater Dickson." Link
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Re: Charged for defending your own home
Reply #359 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:55pm:

"The Telegraph reported the triple-0 emergency call Batterham made that morning recorded sounds of the fight, and Batterham allegedly making threats against Mr Slater Dickson." Link

Fair enough. However, whatever the threats were have not been stated clearly.

I guess it will all come out eventually.

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