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Reply #315 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 7:18am

Agnes wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 12:11am:

Super Nova wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2016 at 11:39pm:

What a complete load of nonsense.

If someone posts as a guest it could be anyone. Simple.

If they use a poster ID from here, so be it.

It is really simple. If it is a guest post, no-one knows or cares who posted it. Sometimes it is fun to speculate but that is the end of the matter.

It is a forum for Christ sake. We are all anonymous, aren't we.

So tilting at windmills is a waste of time.

Guest posting is open for all. The only restriction is that a name registered at PA cannot be used by the guest. To preserve a nick you need to register that nick. Simples.

A guest post has the name in BLACK so it is obvious.

A great common sense post Super Nova- thank you- Boxy came up with a beauty last night and now you. There may just be hope yet.

It is a great common sense post. Yet you have been claiming for days that you know who posts in the Vortex.
Thanks for admitting your lies, maybe now you'll grow up.

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Reply #316 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 7:37am

Super Nova wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2016 at 11:39pm:

It is really simple. If it is a guest post, no-one knows or [/highlight[highlight]]cares who posted it. Sometimes it is fun to speculate but that is the end of the matter.

It is a forum for Christ sake. We are all anonymous, aren't we.

not quite true in my case S.N...

I took the post in fermentations at PA as being from jovial monk.. I commented how appalled I was by it in this thread.. and then found out it was fake...

had I not posted in this thread I would be none the wiser and would have a very low opinion of monk..

now I realise that woudnt bother his enemies from PA...but it could happen to anyone... even yourself...a bad picture is being painted of people...

rather unfairly I find...and I will be honest with you..

I could never trust PA.... I do not trust aussie so thats why I dont use relationships....

if its the practice to allow people to fake peoples IDs..........then its sick......you may think of this as an anonymous internet site... but almost everyone knows these days..

NOTHING IS ANONYMOUS ON THE NET.

nothing completely disappears.

as skippy has pointed out... he and one other know everything that goes on at PA...

how does anyone know it isnt you and skippy behind all these FAKE ids???....

someone is doing it.....the fact they are not stopped........I think is wrong.

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Reply #317 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 10:18am

mantra wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 4:18am:

Agnes wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2016 at 11:25pm:

The posts I have of Andries' are not from this week , they precede that by quite a bit- they are Andries Hicks posts ,it says quite clearly- I prempted that they might be removed so I have them tucked up safely into folder..along with a few others on that list..

AG - you are wasting your time saving posts from the Vortex. What good will a complaint about a deleted post do? If PA was going to be shut down - FD would have done it by now.

Skippy doesn't divulge who the guest posters are because he's the admin and keeps that information confidential. The Vortex is a lightly moderated mouth piece for angry and disgruntled members from Ozpolitic. Yes it's crass, but aside from Aussie no-one cares anymore.

Some of the people on these forums are very cunning and clever when it comes to imitating other members. What they can't say here - they can say over there without being outed.

Then why is he purporting to 'disclose' that I, Monk and Agnes have made guest posts there?

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It is really simple. If it is a guest post, no-one knows or cares who posted it. Sometimes it is fun to speculate but that is the end of the matter.

Yet skippeee insists that he knows, and you would know as much as he does being the GMOd equivalent there.

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[quote author=AiA_in_Atlanta link=1459154376/308#308 date=1459597185]Agnes, you can stop guest posting as "Andrei Hicks" at PA b/c the post won't be approved.

Yet, post by people pretending to be me, Monk and Agnes are allowed. Why different Rules for we three?

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Close Polanimal down Freediver- A disgrace! Reply #318 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 11:03am Make that different rules for you FOUR ... IQSRLOW seems to get imped often as well. Redneck, are you ready to come clean as to why you agreed to get yourself involved in Aussie's, Agnes' and Jovial Monk's little scheme?
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Close Polanimal down Freediver- A disgrace! Reply #319 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 11:11am AiA wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 11:03am: Make that different rules for you FOUR ... Redneck, are you ready to come clean as to why you agreed to get yourself involved in Aussie's, Agnes' and Jovial Monk's little scheme? so that makes it OK does it?>... as long as it isnt AiA I guess.
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Reply #320 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 11:29am

AiA wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 11:03am:

Make that different rules for you FOUR ... IQSRLOW seems to get imped often as well.

Redneck, are you ready to come clean as to why you agreed to get yourself involved in Aussie's, Agnes' and Jovial Monk's little scheme?

You are barking up the wrong tree 100% concerning Redneck.

Why are there different Rules for any?

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Close Polanimal down Freediver- A disgrace! Reply #322 - Apr 4^th, 2016 at 11:51pm are you still carrying on about this nonsense? nobody effing cares but you, agnes and jovial monk. not even redneck gives an eff but for reasons unknown to me he pretended to ... for about two seconds. hopefully he has learned now not to get caught up in your schemes.
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Reply #323 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:48am

cods wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 7:37am:

Super Nova wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2016 at 11:39pm:

It is really simple. If it is a guest post, no-one knows or [/highlight[highlight]]cares who posted it. Sometimes it is fun to speculate but that is the end of the matter.

It is a forum for Christ sake. We are all anonymous, aren't we.

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not quite true in my case S.N...

I took the post in fermentations at PA as being from jovial monk.. I commented how appalled I was by it in this thread.. and then found out it was fake...

had I not posted in this thread I would be none the wiser and would have a very low opinion of monk..

Well now you know. Posts in the Vortex are from Guests and they type to name at time of posting. They can choose anything expect for a registered name. I always assume it is not the ID of someone from here or anywhere else if it is a flamer post.

Also a GUEST post is in a different colour. But I agree you have to know that.

However there are occasion where some from here have posted in the vortex and it is clear it is them. However I am not going to go there.

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now I realise that woudnt bother his enemies from PA...but it could happen to anyone... even yourself...a bad picture is being painted of people...

rather unfairly I find...and I will be honest with you..

We do not worry about the guest ID when approving a guest post. I have no issues with people registering in PA if they have concerns about their own ID being Imped from here.

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I could never trust PA.... I do not trust aussie so thats why I dont use relationships....

It is not fair to judge Pa on the Vortex. But, it is your decision and that I respect.

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if its the practice to allow people to fake peoples IDs..........then its sick......you may think of this as an anonymous internet site... but almost everyone knows these days..

They are not fake ID in relation to PA. That's the point.

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NOTHING IS ANONYMOUS ON THE NET.

nothing completely disappears.

That is not technically true. However to us it is. We are not the FBI or ASIO.

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as skippy has pointed out... he and one other know everything that goes on at PA...

how does anyone know it isnt you and skippy behind all these FAKE ids???....

someone is doing it.....the fact they are not stopped........I think is wrong.

It is guest posting. Now you are informed it maybe them and most likely is not, it brings it into context for you.

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Reply #324 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 8:56am

sn you make you point which of course is true..

however we the visitors do not know all that..

for instance you state the vortex is ONLY FOR VISITORS./guests as you comically call them.

where does it say that...

NO PA MEMBER IS ALLOWED TO POST IN VORTEX?

Super Nova wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:48am:

However there are occasion where some from here have posted in the vortex and it is clear it is them. However I am not going to go there.

why not nova why be shy??????????????...

tell us how you know???.. is it because you can sneak a peek at something the rest of us are barred from doing???>....

is that really a level playing field..????...

I posted in PA as myself.. you are now saying its up to the mod if my post is placed up there.. Roll Eyes

kind of phony censorship....isnt it??..

why censor a place that is all fake anyway????...

it seems to me to be a trap.....I was trapped nicely....it is a good idea to have a place for guests to post....even if they can only post so many...but for goodness sake let it be above board....and let it be for everyone.....and not those who are there for one thing only..

to cause trouble....

what would happen to me if I signed in as Super Nova.and made all sorts of horrendous claims about people from ozpol???>...

would that be published do you think????

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Reply #325 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:16am

To answer your question cods, if you used the super novo ID as a guest, YES it would be published.
Just like the people from here that post as SKIPPY, get their posts published.
You see that's the joke of this whole charade, the posters whinging use the Vortex and often post pretending to be me, IQ and others but when it happens to them in return they whine like banshees. Roll Eyes

The reason posts have to be approved before being published is because some posters,who will remain nameless, like to post personal details of posters from over there that they think they know. Roll Eyes

Just like the admin,and G mods I assume, from here I am privy to the IP numbers posters use so that is why I may know if a certain poster from here has posted there.
Often posters use what is called a proxy IP but they tend to use the same company all the time so it is not difficult to spot who they are.
I dont intend to get into a slaying match here with Aussie and co, I am just trying to explain a few things for you. Rather than be interrogated by the resident " Perry Mason" from here if you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will do my honest best to answer them as long as it does not divulge any personal I do. Cool

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Reply #326 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:40am

skippy. wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:16am:

To answer your question cods, if you used the super novo ID as a guest, YES it would be published.
Just like the people from here that post as SKIPPY, get their posts published.
You see that's the joke of this whole charade, the posters whinging use the Vortex and often post pretending to be me, IQ and others but when it happens to them in return they whine like banshees. Roll Eyes

The reason posts have to be approved before being published is because some posters,who will remain nameless, like to post personal details of posters from over there that they think they know. Roll Eyes

Just like the admin,and G mods I assume, from here I am privy to the IP numbers posters use so that is why I may know if a certain poster from here has posted there.
Often posters use what is called a proxy IP but they tend to use the same company all the time so it is not difficult to spot who they are.
I dont intend to get into a slaying match here with Aussie and co, I am just trying to explain a few things for you. Rather than be interrogated by the resident " Perry Mason" from here if you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will do my honest best to answer them as long as it does not divulge any personal I do. Cool

yeah the working are slowly sinking in..thanks..

however you say your fake ids would be posted....but how do we know that???...

this is the problem I have??... if someone is going to post personal info......itsnt that going to happen anywhere including ozpol??>...if thats what type they are?.....

I know a few personal details of folks I correspond with on PMs.likewise they know a bit about me....I might add all my mates on PMs are lefties.....

do you understand that??????...

anyway thanks for trying to sort it all out...I didnt know the vortex was for guest and even pretend guests....I thought it was an everybody place....

maybe better identification of those pretenders.. would help...its just a thought,.. maybe their id gets printed in red or something..

I give you credit skippy at least you listen and try your best to fix things....you cant fix people...but you can show leadership....

this sadly is what lacking in our govt leaders right now LEADERSHIP....they are all waiting to be told what to do next....no initiative of their own...bloody pathetic.

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Reply #327 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:48am

cods wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:40am:

skippy. wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:16am:

To answer your question cods, if you used the super novo ID as a guest, YES it would be published.
Just like the people from here that post as SKIPPY, get their posts published.
You see that's the joke of this whole charade, the posters whinging use the Vortex and often post pretending to be me, IQ and others but when it happens to them in return they whine like banshees. Roll Eyes

The reason posts have to be approved before being published is because some posters,who will remain nameless, like to post personal details of posters from over there that they think they know. Roll Eyes

Just like the admin,and G mods I assume, from here I am privy to the IP numbers posters use so that is why I may know if a certain poster from here has posted there.
Often posters use what is called a proxy IP but they tend to use the same company all the time so it is not difficult to spot who they are.
I dont intend to get into a slaying match here with Aussie and co, I am just trying to explain a few things for you. Rather than be interrogated by the resident " Perry Mason" from here if you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will do my honest best to answer them as long as it does not divulge any personal I do. Cool

yeah the working are slowly sinking in..thanks..

however you say your fake ids would be posted....but how do we know that???...

this is the problem I have??... [highlight]if someone is going to post personal info......itsnt that going to happen anywhere including ozpol??>...if thats what type they[/highlight] are?.....

I know a few personal details of folks I correspond with on PMs.likewise they know a bit about me....I might add all my mates on PMs are lefties.....

do you understand that??????...

anyway thanks for trying to sort it all out...I didnt know the vortex was for guest and even pretend guests....I thought it was an everybody place....

maybe better identification of those pretenders.. would help...its just a thought,.. maybe their id gets printed in red or something..

I give you credit skippy at least you listen and try your best to fix things....you cant fix people...but you can show leadership....

this sadly is what lacking in our govt leaders right now LEADERSHIP....they are all waiting to be told what to do next....no initiative of their own...bloody pathetic.

If you look in the Vortex you can see any of the skippy posts that don't include my avatar are guests Impersonating me, the same goes for any other members over there. That is proof we do approve them.

Yes posters can post personal details here and they have many times, the mods remove the info and ban the poster.

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Reply #328 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:00am

skippy. wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

cods wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:40am:

skippy. wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 9:16am:

To answer your question cods, if you used the super novo ID as a guest, YES it would be published.
Just like the people from here that post as SKIPPY, get their posts published.
You see that's the joke of this whole charade, the posters whinging use the Vortex and often post pretending to be me, IQ and others but when it happens to them in return they whine like banshees. Roll Eyes

The reason posts have to be approved before being published is because some posters,who will remain nameless, like to post personal details of posters from over there that they think they know. Roll Eyes

Just like the admin,and G mods I assume, from here I am privy to the IP numbers posters use so that is why I may know if a certain poster from here has posted there.
Often posters use what is called a proxy IP but they tend to use the same company all the time so it is not difficult to spot who they are.
I dont intend to get into a slaying match here with Aussie and co, I am just trying to explain a few things for you. Rather than be interrogated by the resident " Perry Mason" from here if you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will do my honest best to answer them as long as it does not divulge any personal I do. Cool

yeah the working are slowly sinking in..thanks..

however you say your fake ids would be posted....but how do we know that???...

this is the problem I have??... [highlight]if someone is going to post personal info......itsnt that going to happen anywhere including ozpol??>...if thats what type they[/highlight] are?.....

I know a few personal details of folks I correspond with on PMs.likewise they know a bit about me....I might add all my mates on PMs are lefties.....

do you understand that??????...

anyway thanks for trying to sort it all out...I didnt know the vortex was for guest and even pretend guests....I thought it was an everybody place....

maybe better identification of those pretenders.. would help...its just a thought,.. maybe their id gets printed in red or something..

I give you credit skippy at least you listen and try your best to fix things....you cant fix people...but you can show leadership....

this sadly is what lacking in our govt leaders right now LEADERSHIP....they are all waiting to be told what to do next....no initiative of their own...bloody pathetic.

If you look in the Vortex you can see any of the skippy posts that don't include my avatar are guests Impersonating me, the same goes for any other members over there. That is proof we do approve them.

Yes posters can post personal details here and they have many times, the mods remove the info and ban the poster.

I dont believe that is right.. do you get blamed or cursed for those posts???.

why isnt it for guest... true guests....why play into the hands of the cowards??... thats how I see them..because lets be honest they are not there for serious debate....are they??>...

from the language its more trouble causing for people who know nothing about it...

for instance agnes claims she doesnt post in vortex.. yet you claim she does.. or has...

is that fair to anyone???..

you claim an unfair advantage because your a mod...... and we are expected to believe you....

agnes just someone defending herself.. is left to wallow in the not to be believed dept because she has no way of proving otherwise...

I cant get my head around thinking thats unfair. skippy...

I prefer to think I am dealing with honest people as much as possible..yet two people two different answers..

no I dont expect you to prove what you know...I understand that...but when I see peoples IDs disgraced/trashed..... aka monks thread/post....

I feel that really lets the place down..

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38862 Gender:	Re: Close Polanimal down Freediver- A disgrace! Reply #329 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:14am That happens to me and Agnes as well cods. They have not yet explained why it is okay for people to pretend to be me or Agnes or Monk.....but it is not okay that people pretend to be Andrei Hicks, for example.
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