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Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 2:52pm

I fully understand honour killings are cross cultural and probably existed in all cultures in some time throughout history.
see link http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/fv-vf/hk-ch/p3.html

But lets talk 2016, this is a bit of a worry eh?

In February, Punjab, the country's largest province, passed a landmark law criminalising all forms of violence against women.

However, more than 30 religious groups, including all the mainstream Islamic political parties, have threatened to launch protests if the law is not repealed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35943732

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #1 - Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 3:35pm perhaps it'ld be better of all the muslim men killed all the muslim women? you know, to really show how honourable that really are
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #2 - Apr 4^th, 2016 at 6:43pm These are the 'mainstream' Muslims who are not trying to kill us. Hooray.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #3 - Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:57pm And to think these bastards have nuclear weapons.
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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #4 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 3:53pm

There is nothing honorable in killing or beating someone weaker than yourself.

But the fact that this is seen as honorable by a religious group is abhorrent.

Sad, Sick religion.

But, if one removes the deluded sociopath rantings of Mohamed, its really not all that different from the christian and Jewish religions.

God must be crying that so many have twisted his words to create such a sad pathetic world.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #5 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:18pm Quote: But, if one removes the deluded sociopath rantings of Mohamed, its really not all that different from the christian and Jewish religions. You should tell Gandalf. He is all about reform.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #6 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:15pm "reform" = stop being muslim
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #7 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:28pm polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:15pm: "reform" = stop being muslim I'd never tell someone to stop being Muslim. I think the answer is to be less Muslim.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #8 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm How do you stop them being pakistani though?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96166 Gender:	Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise Reply #9 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:34pm ... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm: How do you stop them being pakistani though? Good point. Gordy?
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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #10 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:44pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 11:15pm:

"reform" = stop being muslim

I'd never tell someone to stop being Muslim.
I think the answer is to be less Muslim.

Funny - the evidence seem to suggest that being more muslim is a good solution:

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In fact, the authors note that frequent mosque attendance “is linked with higher levels of civic engagement. Muslims who regularly attend mosques are more likely to work with their neighbors to solve community problems” as well as to vote.

According to the survey, “Muslims who say their faith is important to their identity are more likely to say being American is important to how they think of themselves than those who express a weak religious identity.”

It turns out that attending a mosque in the United States, like attending a church, actually seems to have a moderating influence on people’s behavior.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/27/how-us-mosques-genuinely-help-fight-extremism/

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #11 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:45pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

How do you stop them being pakistani though?

Good point.

Gordy?

Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.

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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #12 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:53pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

How do you stop them being pakistani though?

Good point.

Gordy?

Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.

That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being. How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?

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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #13 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:21pm

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

How do you stop them being pakistani though?

Good point.

Gordy?

Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.

That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being. How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?

I just can't imagine where you'd even start with attitudes like this.

A gang rape case in Pakistan has been allegedly settled for 30 maunds of wheat by local elders, highlighting the grave travesty of justice in the country.

If you refuse it, you are banished

The man said that after he refused to accept the compensation he was forced to leave the area with his family. He alleged that since local media highlighted the issue, local elites have been threatening him to keep mum and withdraw the case, the report said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-pakistan-gang-rape-case-closed-wit...

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Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Reply #14 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:25pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:33pm:

How do you stop them being pakistani though?

Good point.

Gordy?

Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.

That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being. How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?

I just can't imagine where you'd even start with attitudes like this.

A gang rape case in Pakistan has been allegedly settled for 30 maunds of wheat by local elders, highlighting the grave travesty of justice in the country.

If you refuse it, you are banished

The man said that after he refused to accept the compensation he was forced to leave the area with his family. He alleged that since local media highlighted the issue, local elites have been threatening him to keep mum and withdraw the case, the report said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-pakistan-gang-rape-case-closed-wit...

This system wasn't implemented by aliens you know.

Pakistani culture is a manifestation of pakistanis.

Or, to put it another way:

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