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Reply #240 - Apr 13th, 2016 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 13th, 2016 at 8:28am:
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
More sensationalist drivel. Do you get off on it?

Pushing someone in the chest does not make them a wife beater.


Are Aisha's own words about Muhammed and Abu Bakr causing her pain "sensationalist drivel"? Are you always an apologist for wife beaters, or just the Muslim ones? Would you quibble with modern victims of domestic violence about whether they were pushed, punched or poked?



Yes, FD, but did Aisha call the police? Did she apply for an AVO? Did she move to a DV shelter?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #241 - Apr 13th, 2016 at 10:12pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 9:57pm:
You should familiarise yourself with all of the strong, brilliant, self regulating Muslim women before you write them off.

You do them a great disservice.


some of the strong, brilliant, self regulating Muslim women:
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Reply #243 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 12:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 6:30pm:
Belgian government official Yves Goldstein considers recent developments:

“Our cities are facing a huge problem, maybe the largest since World War II,” Mr. Goldstein said. “How is it that people who were born here in Brussels, in Paris, can call heroes the people who commit violence and terror? That is the real question we’re facing.”

Friends who teach the equivalent of high school seniors in the predominantly Muslim districts of Molenbeek and Schaerbeek told him that “90 percent of their students, 17, 18 years old, called them heroes,” he said.
But despite all of that:


The problem is not Islam, he insists …


It never is. Whatever the problem may be, Goldstein believes it can be cured – as Breitbart London notes – by greater exposure to Andy Warhol:

“These young people will never go to museums until 18 or 20 – they never saw Chagall, they never saw Dalí, they never saw Warhol, they don’t know what it is to dream,” Mr. Goldstein said.




Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The good Belgian Mr Yves Goldstein is gandalf, Mothra, John Smith, Karnal, and all the other 'the problem is not Islam, it never is' crowd here and across the globe.


Yves Godstein - it's not a joke, unfortunately.





A re-write is suggested to Yves Goldtein:

Muslims who have been allowed into our countries need to understand that their endless reliance on a false victimization — charges of “racism” when Islam is not a “race” — will no longer work. It is hardly “discrimination” to insist that Muslims must obey the same laws, observe the same rules, as non-Muslims. They have to decide whether to accept the identity of a citizen in a Western secular state that is now available to them, or to cling solely to their Islamic identity, the one that assures them that they are the “best of peoples” and admonishes them not to take “Jews and Christians as friends.” They need to understand that acts have consequences, and that the observable behavior of Muslims, including the terrorist attacks by those who justify themselves by quoting from the Qur’an, naturally has helped to form our view of Muslims and of Islam. How could it not?
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/64125
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