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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #75 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:58am

Yadda wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:44am:

Not all terrorist attacks are carried out by moslems.

But every moslem, is a latent wanna-be terrorist.

Those are indisputable facts.

Every moslem, is a latent wanna-be terrorist ???

Yes.

Every moslem worthy of that name/description, ....is an active supporter of what ISLAM promotes in the world of men.

Which is, seeking to establish the political superiority of ISLAM upon the whole of the earth, using every means available, including political violence [i.e. terrorism].

Which is a proposition which is established in the validity of these arguments.....

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QUESTION;

Who or what, is a moslem ???

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

And what is ISLAM ???

ISLAM is a philosophy which exists to encourage political violence [terrorism] against disbelieving non-moslems.

ISLAM = = Jihad [aka religious fighting in Allah's cause]

Orthodox, mainstream ISLAM = = never-ending warfare, by moslems, upon all of disbelieving mankind, in order to establish the political superiority of ISLAM upon the whole of the earth.

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

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How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #76 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Was it you providing that idiotic advice to not mention Islam?

Was it you who stopped beating his wife?

Muslims are allowed to beat their wives if they fear disobedience.

Christians are allowed to beat their children ... with a rod.

How is that relevant to wife beating, why are you an apologist for muslims bashing their wives?
quran.com/4/34

Muslims are allowed to beat their kids when they turn 7 to make them pray.
sunnah.com/search/?q=children+beat+prayer

Muslims live under sharia law little pecca, bashing your wife and kids is acceptable under sharia law.

You're just a morally bankrupt Islamic apologist

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Reply #77 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Would you agree that this is particularly stupid advice ?

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The best way to do that, is to ignore it.

Don't mention their silly religion.

Don't give them the satisfaction.

Direct all of your outrage at the individuals who committed the murders, not a silly set of beliefs.

Nope.

Are you going to start answering some questions now, FD?

Would you be prepared to make an argument in support of that advice Greg?

Having trouble deciding whether to pedal forwards or backwards? Don't worry, if I had your opinions I would disown them too.

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Reply #78 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Was it you providing that idiotic advice to not mention Islam?

Was it you who stopped beating his wife?

Muslims are allowed to beat their wives if they fear disobedience.

Christians are allowed to beat their children ... with a rod.

How is that relevant to wife beating?

A beating is a beating.

Why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

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Reply #79 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:42pm:

Was it you providing that idiotic advice to not mention Islam?

Was it you who stopped beating his wife?

Muslims are allowed to beat their wives if they fear disobedience.

Christians are allowed to beat their children ... with a rod.

How is that relevant to wife beating?

A beating is a beating.

Why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

The Christians don't live under biblical law you dim wit, muslims live under sharia law which allows wife and child beating.

Why do you condone muslims bashing their wives and kids which is legal under sharia law?

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Reply #80 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:11pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

Greggy,Karnel, what I posted about suicide bombings was a quote from Maajid Nawaz. Can you tell me why he should not be believed?

Sorry, Gordy, I’ve just reviewed this thread - I can’t find a quote from Maajid Nawaz. Did you post one somewhere else?

Not a verbatim quote but from Future of Tolerance

To expand further on suicide bombings, they're taught in their madrassas and mosques there is no such thing as collateral damage because when you set off a bomb the infidels go to hell and any muslims killed go to paradise.
Source, that horrible Islamophobe Maajid Nawaz

Not a quote? Can you expand on this, please?

Where did you get this?

Have you heard of Maajid Nawaz?

Never. Do you have a quote, or do you want to keep pretending?

Do you now see what I mean about porkies?

You're being disingenuous, Karnal.

I told you it's not a direct quote. It's what he says throughout the book.

I told you my copy of the book is in Kindle format so not cut and paste-able.

I sent you a PM with a link to the audio conversation between Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz on which the conversation is based.

Here it is again. https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/islam-and-the-future-of-tolerance-a-dialo...

Here is a link where you can purchase the book for about $15 http://www.amazon.com/Islam-Future-Tolerance-A-Dialogue/dp/0674088700

Short of me coming over to your house and reading you a bed time story, that's about as much as I can help you.

If you couldn't be bothered exploring either of these options, then just leave it at that and stay in the dark.

Your call.

I can't open your link, Gordy, but that's not the issue. You said you've provided a quote. You didn't, and you still refuse to do this.

The point of a discussion board is peer review. If you're making a claim about someone's beliefs, you need to back it up with their words. If you don't, someone like moi is going to come along and point out you haven't. I'd expect you to do exactly the same to me. I want you to.

In a debate, you can't tell someone to go and buy a book to back up your claim. No one would take this seriously. If you've read the book, open it up and tell us what it says - then reference the book.

To me, this is the issue here. I don't care whether you blame Islam or not. But I do care about whether you tell porkies. If you can't provide a quote, don't make the claim in the first place. Problem solved.

If you can, no worries. Tell us the quote, back up your claim, and I'll believe you.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136837 Gender:	Re: don't mention Islam Reply #81 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:11pm Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:09pm: The Christians don't ... ... ignore their Bible? No, they don't. So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod? Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?
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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #82 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:11pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:09pm:

The Christians don't ...

... ignore their Bible? No, they don't.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

Selective quoting there little pecca, Christians don't live under biblical law, there are many countries where muslims live under sharia law.

Why are you an apologist for state sanctioned wife and kiddie bashing for muslims living under sharia law?

Why do you condone child brides which are legal under sharia law little pecca?

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Reply #83 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:24pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:11pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:25pm:

Greggy,Karnel, what I posted about suicide bombings was a quote from Maajid Nawaz. Can you tell me why he should not be believed?

Sorry, Gordy, I’ve just reviewed this thread - I can’t find a quote from Maajid Nawaz. Did you post one somewhere else?

Not a verbatim quote but from Future of Tolerance

To expand further on suicide bombings, they're taught in their madrassas and mosques there is no such thing as collateral damage because when you set off a bomb the infidels go to hell and any muslims killed go to paradise.
Source, that horrible Islamophobe Maajid Nawaz

Not a quote? Can you expand on this, please?

Where did you get this?

Have you heard of Maajid Nawaz?

Never. Do you have a quote, or do you want to keep pretending?

Do you now see what I mean about porkies?

You're being disingenuous, Karnal.

I told you it's not a direct quote. It's what he says throughout the book.

I told you my copy of the book is in Kindle format so not cut and paste-able.

I sent you a PM with a link to the audio conversation between Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz on which the conversation is based.

Here it is again. https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/islam-and-the-future-of-tolerance-a-dialo...

Here is a link where you can purchase the book for about $15 http://www.amazon.com/Islam-Future-Tolerance-A-Dialogue/dp/0674088700

Short of me coming over to your house and reading you a bed time story, that's about as much as I can help you.

If you couldn't be bothered exploring either of these options, then just leave it at that and stay in the dark.

Your call.

I can't open your link, Gordy, but that's not the issue. You said you've provided a quote. You didn't, and you still refuse to do this.

The point of a discussion board is peer review. If you're making a claim about someone's beliefs, you need to back it up with their words. If you don't, someone like moi is going to come along and point out you haven't. I'd expect you to do exactly the same to me. I want you to.

In a debate, you can't tell someone to go and buy a book to back up your claim. No one would take this seriously. If you've read the book, open it up and tell us what it says - then reference the book.

To me, this is the issue here. I don't care whether you blame Islam or not. But I do care about whether you tell porkies. If you can't provide a quote, don't make the claim in the first place. Problem solved.

If you can, no worries. Tell us the quote, back up your claim, and I'll believe you.

You can't open a podcast? Cheesy

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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #85 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Christians don't ...

... mind beating and fiddling with kids.

Too true.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

The topic is Islam little pecca.

Why do you support sharia law which allows wife and kiddie beating little pecca?

Why do you support the child brides in the Islamic parts of the world which are 100% legal under sharia law little pecca?

Why do you support the 13 countries with Islam as the state religion that have the death penalty for atheists little pecca?

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Reply #86 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Christians don't ...

... mind beating and fiddling with kids.

Too true.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

The topic is Islam .

Actually, the topic is "Don't mention Islam".

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

(Notice I didn't mention Islam)

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Reply #87 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Christians don't ...

... mind beating and fiddling with kids.

Too true.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

The topic is Islam .

Actually, the topic is "Don't mention Islam".

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

(Notice I didn't mention Islam)

Cite where I said I condone it little pecca.

If we follow your idiocy the religion of these criminals is irrelevant or does this being irrelevant only apply if they are muslims can you clarify that for us

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Reply #88 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Christians don't ...

... mind beating and fiddling with kids.

Too true.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

The topic is Islam .

Actually, the topic is "Don't mention Islam".

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

(Notice I didn't mention Islam)

Cite where I said I condone it.

Snap!

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Reply #89 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:23pm:

Christians don't ...

... mind beating and fiddling with kids.

Too true.

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

The topic is Islam .

Actually, the topic is "Don't mention Islam".

So, why do condone the practice of Christians beating their children ... with a rod?

Do you condone the actions of the Catholic kiddy fiddlers too?

(Notice I didn't mention Islam)

Cite where I said I condone it.

Snap!

So why do you condone muslims bashing their child brides which is perfectly legal under sharia law?

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