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Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Apr 6^th, 2016 at 1:11pm

Beware the curse of Abbott!

Things have not gone well for the 54 MPs who voted to replace Tony Abbott with Malcolm Turnbull six months ago.

First, they’ve seen their initial support sink so that Labor is now 50/50 with the Government - and with the wind behind it.

But many of the Turnbull backers have suffered personally. Count them.

Malcolm Turnbull himself has come under severe criticism and pressure, with his personal approval

Dennis Jensen yesterday lost his preselection, and without any irony at all protested at being betrayed.

Mal Brough has had to first resign his ministry and then from Parliament as police confirmed they were interviewing him over claims that he tried to procure personal information from a public servant about former Speaker Peter Slipper.

Arthur Sinodinos faces renewed criticisms and allegations over what he knew about secret and unlawful donations to the Liberals.

Teresa Gambaro is quitting Parliament.after being denied promotion.

Ian Macfarlane is quitting Parliament after being denied the ministry position he expected from Turnbull and then being blocked from moving to the nationals.

Phillip Ruddock is quitting Parliament after coming under severe presure in his preselection.

Concetta Fierravanti-Wells was humiliatingly denied the top spot on the Liberals NSW Senate ticket after anger at her betrayal of Abbott.

Scott Morrison, whose supporters switched to Turnbull, has been marginalised and belittled as Treasurer by the Prime Minister he helped to install (without actually voting for him himself).

Bronwyn Bishop, who so outrageously betrayed Abbott, is now in danger of losing the preselection she long assumed was sewn up.

Julie Bishop, who plotted with Turnbull and betrayed her leader, has suffered big reputational damage within the party and is now written off as a future leader. In fact, she will be unlikely to serve out another full term.

Stuart Robert has had to resign his ministry after confusing personal interests with his job and faces investigation by police..

Sharman Stone is quitting Parliament.

Michael Ronaldson has quit politics after being dumped as Minister. (Ronaldson was not among the 54, but only because he arrived too late to back Turnbull.)

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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #1 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 1:12pm

Luke Simpkins has come under fire over his expenses.

Coincidence? Karma?

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A thought: take out the Turnbull supporters now leaving parliament and add the marginal seat holders (many, like Sarah Henderson, who voted for Turnbull) likely to lose their seats and the Prime Minister looks not so invulnerable as the leadership vote six months ago suggests.

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On notice to behave:

KEVIN Andrews ... says he would be prepared to challenge for the leadership of the Liberal party, and therefore the Prime Ministership, under the right circumstances…

Malcolm Turnbull’s elevation to the Prime Minister’s office last year resulted in Mr Andrews challenging fellow Liberal Julie Bishop for the deputy leadership of the party…

A party room vote saw Mr Andrews lose 30 votes to 70, a greater margin than when Mr Andrews unsuccessfully challenged Mr Turnbull for the leadership in 2009 over the party’s support for an emissions trading scheme.

Mr Andrews said any future attempt by him to assume the Liberal leadership would happen under those circumstances rather than him “setting out and saying I want to be Prime Minister”....

Mr Andrews said it was “true” he was a leader of the conservative side of the Liberal party.

“But I see that leadership as a kind of intellectual leadership,” he said.

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So who will be next to feel the curse of Abbott?

Nola Marino was one of Abbott’s deputy whips, charged with keeping him informed of the mood of the backbench. Very close to plotter Julie Bishop, she was, and she then voted for Turnbull.. There are very strong reservations from locals about her role and loyalties.

Let’s see how many share those reservations at Marino’s preselection showdown today, and whether Turnbull’s intervention is enough to save her:

It was revealed this week that Mrs Marino, who holds the safe southern seat of Forrest, faced a preselection challenge from local party member Ben Small.

Mrs Marino has held Forrest since 2007 and was recently promoted by Mr Turnbull to Chief Government Whip.

He told The Weekend West that he would give his full backing to Mrs Marino as she fought off the threat to her job. “I could not praise her more highly,” Mr Turnbull said.

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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #2 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 1:14pm

Labor voter wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

Beware the curse of Abbott!

Things have not gone well for the 54 MPs who voted to replace Tony Abbott with Malcolm Turnbull six months ago.

First, they’ve seen their initial support sink so that Labor is now 51/49 with the Government - and with the wind behind it.

But many of the Turnbull backers have suffered personally. Count them.

Malcolm Turnbull himself has come under severe criticism and pressure, with his personal approval

Dennis Jensen yesterday lost his preselection, and without any irony at all protested at being betrayed.

Mal Brough has had to first resign his ministry and then from Parliament as police confirmed they were interviewing him over claims that he tried to procure personal information from a public servant about former Speaker Peter Slipper.

Arthur Sinodinos faces renewed criticisms and allegations over what he knew about secret and unlawful donations to the Liberals.

Teresa Gambaro is quitting Parliament.after being denied promotion.

Ian Macfarlane is quitting Parliament after being denied the ministry position he expected from Turnbull and then being blocked from moving to the nationals.

Phillip Ruddock is quitting Parliament after coming under severe presure in his preselection.

Concetta Fierravanti-Wells was humiliatingly denied the top spot on the Liberals NSW Senate ticket after anger at her betrayal of Abbott.

Scott Morrison, whose supporters switched to Turnbull, has been marginalised and belittled as Treasurer by the Prime Minister he helped to install (without actually voting for him himself).

Bronwyn Bishop, who so outrageously betrayed Abbott, is now in danger of losing the preselection she long assumed was sewn up.

Julie Bishop, who plotted with Turnbull and betrayed her leader, has suffered big reputational damage within the party and is now written off as a future leader. In fact, she will be unlikely to serve out another full term.

Stuart Robert has had to resign his ministry after confusing personal interests with his job and faces investigation by police..

Sharman Stone is quitting Parliament.

Michael Ronaldson has quit politics after being dumped as Minister. (Ronaldson was not among the 54, but only because he arrived too late to back Turnbull.)

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Labor voter Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 302 Gender:	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #3 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:55pm where's all the liberal supporters to defend this post. I can understand swaggie not on here he is working hard paying his taxes
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #4 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 5:03pm Turnbull and Abbott supporters are cut from the same cloth: COPPER INTERNET LOVERS WHO FORGOT PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY! The higher ideal means Turnbull loses in all continuations hence the reality of now! Get ready for a change of government!
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #5 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 6:34pm Labor voter wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:55pm: where's all the liberal supporters to defend this post. I can understand swaggie not on here he is working hard paying his taxes Bit late in the day for stand up
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Sir Crook Ex Member	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #6 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 6:40pm Make sure he doesn't get any penalty rates.
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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #7 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:20pm

Labor voter wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

where's all the liberal supporters to defend this post.

I can understand swaggie not on here he is working hard paying his taxes

yes well a lot of Libs do that more fool them...

as I have never been a Turnbull supporter I couldnt care less.. but I do remember a huge raft of Labor members leaving before the last election...

they did give solid reasons WHY... I am trying to remember what it was..

you act as if this has never happened before... lololol..yeah good old head buried in the sand..leftwhinger.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #8 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:25pm Wells actually did vote for Abbott, but apart from that as usual Andrew is spot on. They all deserve nothing less for their betrayal. The ones that sickens me the most is Bronny.
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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #9 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:27pm

cods wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Labor voter wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

where's all the liberal supporters to defend this post.

I can understand swaggie not on here he is working hard paying his taxes

yes well a lot of Libs do that more fool them...

as I have never been a Turnbull supporter I couldnt care less.. but I do remember a huge raft of Labor members leaving before the last election...

they did give solid reasons WHY... I am trying to remember what it was..

you act as if this has never happened before... lololol..yeah good old head buried in the sand..leftwhinger.

I agree cods. What's more is that many Labor supporters who lambasted Rudd when Gillard was leader then praised him when he returned. Two-faced hypocrites. At least we righties who don't like Turnbull have stuck by our original convictions.

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BILL SHORTEN WILL NEVER BE PM!!!!

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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #10 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:30pm

matty wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Wells actually did vote for Abbott, but apart from that as usual Andrew is spot on. They all deserve nothing less for their betrayal. The ones that sickens me the most is Bronny.

its called KARMA matty and yes it seems to rattle all their cages eventually ....and serves them right....

as you know I am old fashioned and believe in LOYALTY...sadly along with respect and good manners that all seems to be in the past..

I expect more from our elected members...I really do..I have no time for what they did...and will never ever forget it..it wont make me change from being a Lib I am a liberal thinker I dont approve of all they do....but I do believe in freedom of choice...

so that wont change but I wont vote for them whilst he is there..

scott Morrison had so much potential..he will be lucky if this doesnt ruin his career..

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 21509 ACT Gender:	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #11 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:35pm cods wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:30pm: as you know I am old fashioned and believe in LOYALTY...sadly along with respect and good manners that all seems to be in the past.. And yet you attack us loyal laborites? Please explain!
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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #12 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:40pm

matty wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:27pm:

cods wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

Labor voter wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

where's all the liberal supporters to defend this post.

I can understand swaggie not on here he is working hard paying his taxes

yes well a lot of Libs do that more fool them...

as I have never been a Turnbull supporter I couldnt care less.. but I do remember a huge raft of Labor members leaving before the last election...

they did give solid reasons WHY... I am trying to remember what it was..

you act as if this has never happened before... lololol..yeah good old head buried in the sand..leftwhinger.

I agree cods. What's more is that many Labor supporters who lambasted Rudd when Gillard was leader then praised him when he returned. Two-faced hypocrites. At least we righties who don't like Turnbull have stuck by our original convictions.

I think you're confused (again). While Gillard was a better PM than Rudd, even Rudd was a better option than Abbott. Supporting Rudd over Abbott did not change the position that Gillard was preferred over Rudd.

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Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters
Reply #13 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 10:38pm

cods wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 7:30pm:

as you know I am old fashioned and believe in LOYALTY...

This is why you fail. Politicians do not deserve loyalty from the voters, nor should political parties. It's okay to have a preferred political party, but it isn't ok to stick to a party no matter what. Anyone should be willing to switch their vote if the occasion demands, such as graft, corruption or broken promises.

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Labor voter Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 302 Gender:	Re: Karma has come to Turnbull supporters Reply #14 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 10:57pm Quote: Make sure he doesn't get any penalty rates. If swaggie got penalty rates he would pay more tax. He wants people to pay more taxes but he want to cut out weekend penalty rates so people would then pay less taxes
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