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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #15 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #16 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:42am boxy wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:25am: Wow, a female patient demanding a female doctor for her intimate examinations... I'm sure that's never happened before This.
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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #17 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:51am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

What if there's no female OBGYN on duty? Oh and not moving into the 21st century to accommodate a broze age belief system..... Grin

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #18 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 9:04am

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:51am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

What if there's no female OBGYN on duty? Oh and not moving into the 21st century to accommodate a broze age belief system..... Grin

Well gee whiz gordy, maybe she'd have to come back another time.

If thinking its reasonable and proper for a hospital to have policies to cater for pregnant women who only want to see women doctors is a bronze age belief, then you are firmly set in the stone age.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #19 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 9:12am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

The stand they took was because there was no female OBGYN available. If you go to a public hospital do you really expect the roster to be adjusted to requirements which have no basis in Medicine?
Should the hospital only employ female OBGYN's to make sure this situation can never occur?

Also, despite your sister's attempts to have the law changed to suit her Islamic beliefs, they were not.

The hospital has only agreed to "give priority to requests for female-only care "

And I think that's perfectly reasonable.
When checking into the reception desk at the antenatal clinic, oh I'd prefer a female if possible. Sure, no worries or sorry, none on today.

Are you cool with that?

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #20 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:02am

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Also, despite your sister's attempts to have the law changed to suit her Islamic beliefs, they were not.

The hospital has only agreed to "give priority to requests for female-only care "

And I think that's perfectly reasonable.
When checking into the reception desk at the antenatal clinic, oh I'd prefer a female if possible. Sure, no worries or sorry, none on today.

Are you cool with that?

LOL you literally have no point to make gordy.

The hospital policy absolutely was changed (not the law - no one is talking about that). As you say: "The hospital has only agreed to "give priority to requests for female-only care." Which as far as I can tell, was the whole issue to start with. And now you reveal that in fact you think "that's perfectly reasonable." Grin

So what was your point in all this gordy? All this frothing at the mouth over something that you actually now claim is "perfectly reasonable". And you know what? This hideous 'bronze age' woman agrees with you:

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In a statement, Ms Zia said she welcomed the hospital's policy rethink.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96347	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #21 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:19pm Look, Gordy just doesn’t like Afghans, okay? Or Persians, or Indians, or Chinks, or ooga-boogas, or - Nothing to see here, okay? Go home.
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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #22 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:25pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Look, Gordy just doesn’t like Afghans, okay?

Or Persians, or Indians, or Chinks, or ooga-boogas, or -

Nothing to see here, okay? Go home.

Try to keep up, Karnal. I know your mind has been dulled from years playground duty, I actually dated a Persian Princess. Back to your overhead projector please.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #23 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:29pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

What an ar se about statement you make here.
The truth is that your evil cult expects our western hospitals to reverse out of the present and travel back to some other time.
Is that not the case? And if so, why dont those who want that go to a country where they do things that way.
Don't try to bugger with our culture.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #24 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:39pm

The policy seems to have been changed from you get which ever doctor/midwife is available next to you can ask, and you may or may not be accommodated.

Would a woman who is so religiously devout that she wears a niqab, the second most restrictive religious attire after the burka, accept that requests are welcome but for operational reasons, can not always be accommodated?

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #25 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:39pm

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:41am:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Gandalf, have you had a child through the public system?
An antenatal check up goes a bit like this.

Sit in a waiting room bursting with patients for about 2 hours and get the next OBGYN or midwife available.
It's the public system, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Cost $0.00

Actually I have. I've seen numerous pregnant women request a woman-only doctor for their checkup. Its never been a problem for the hospital we were at. Catering for this is standard - and indeed expected hospital practice - as both the HRC and the VEO seem to agree. The only reason this became a problem is that after the woman made a perfectly reasonable and normal request, the hospital seems to have kicked up a stink (not the woman as you dishonestly infer). The only story here is that we have a hospital not moving into the 21st century.

What an ar se about statement you make here.
The truth is that your evil cult expects our western hospitals to reverse out of the present and travel back to some other time.
Is that not the case? And if so, why dont those who want that go to a country where they do things that way.
Don't try to bugger with our culture.

You mean our hospital proceedure culture?

Why shouldn’t a citizen who’s used said Hospital culture make recommendations to change it?

Why shouldn’t someone try to change our culture?

If I’m not mistaken, Bogie, you’ve been trying to change our culture yourself. You want to make it more, you know,.German.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #26 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care". Turns out gordy agreed with this all along.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #27 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:43pm polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care". Turns out gordy agreed with this all along. Request is fine. Demand is not. Do you agree? Yes or no answer will be fine.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #28 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:44pm Now religion is creeping into the hospitals. Unbelievable!!!
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #29 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?
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