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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #30 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm: Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.
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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #31 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:51pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care".

Turns out gordy agreed with this all along.

Request is fine. Demand is not. Do you agree?
Yes or no answer will be fine.

Of course gordy. Isn't it funny how your entire hissy fit over this story is over some 'demand' that existed only in your imagination.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #32 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:53pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.

very true gordy.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #33 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care".

Turns out gordy agreed with this all along.

Request is fine. Demand is not. Do you agree?
Yes or no answer will be fine.

Of course gordy. Isn't it funny how your entire hissy fit over this story is over some 'demand' that existed only in your imagination.

So Gandalf, hypothetically,

If a woman who's so devoted she wears a burqa/niqab politely asks for a female doctor and is politely denied due to operational reasons, would she leave it like that and say, no worries and accept a male doctor?

What do you think would happen next?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40764 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #34 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:57pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:44pm: Now religion is creeping into the hospitals. Unbelievable!!! I agree.
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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #35 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.

Who will, of course, be dealt with in the fullness of time.

When this happens, we’ll all be racist, no?

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #36 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 2:02pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.

Who will, of course, be dealt with in the fullness of time.

When this happens, we’ll all be racist, no?

I'll grant you clemency and forgiveness, Karnal.
You obviously have Stockholm Syndrome and PTSD from the Muzlam violence in Western Sydney schools. Cry

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #37 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:51pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care".

Turns out gordy agreed with this all along.

Request is fine. Demand is not. Do you agree?
Yes or no answer will be fine.

Of course gordy. Isn't it funny how your entire hissy fit over this story is over some 'demand' that existed only in your imagination.

So Gandalf, hypothetically,

If a woman who's so devoted she wears a burqa/niqab politely asks for a female doctor and is politely denied due to operational reasons, would she leave it like that and say, no worries and accept a male doctor?

What do you think would happen next?

LOL you have no shame gordy!

Who said anything about what she was wearing? Where the hell did you get this idea about an imaginary burqa/niqab??

This entire thread is just you making crap up.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #38 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Boges do you think its reasonable for the hospital to now "give priority to requests for female-only care".

Turns out gordy agreed with this all along.

Request is fine. Demand is not. Do you agree?
Yes or no answer will be fine.

Of course gordy. Isn't it funny how your entire hissy fit over this story is over some 'demand' that existed only in your imagination.

So Gandalf, hypothetically,

If a woman who's so devoted she wears a burqa/niqab politely asks for a female doctor and is politely denied due to operational reasons, would she leave it like that and say, no worries and accept a male doctor?

What do you think would happen next?

LOL you have no shame gordy!

Who said anything about what she was wearing? Where the hell did you get this idea about an imaginary burqa/niqab??

This entire thread is just you making crap up.

One of Victoria's largest hospitals will change its policy on female-only care after a Muslim patient wearing a full-length niqab complained of discrimination during an antenatal visit at one of its clinics.

For Ziarata Zia, the niqab she wears – which reveals only her eyes, hands and feet – is central to her Muslim faith.

http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/monash-hospital-agrees-to-femaleonly-doctor-requests-after-complaint-20150505-ggukq9.html

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #39 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:02pm So does that mean a non muslim woman can reject being touched by a male muslim doctor??
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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #40 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

I have no problem if Ms Zia wishes to get around in a bee keepers suit, she can dress as B1, I could care less.

I think we can safely say that you clearly do have a problem with it.

Indeed.

And he removed all doubt when he said "I could care less".

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #41 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:27pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.

Who will, of course, be dealt with in the fullness of time.

When this happens, we’ll all be racist, no?

I'll grant you clemency and forgiveness, Karnal.
You obviously have Stockholm Syndrome and PTSD from the Muzlam violence in Western Sydney schools. Cry

I taught at a few schools, all public. Afghans, Arabs, Iranians - they were all pretty tough.

But do you know? The most polite and studious ones were the religious Muslims. Girls in hijabs. Boys with their heads stuck in books.

Their parents of those students valued education highly. They weren't too different from the Chinks and Curries we've discussed.

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Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan
Reply #42 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

Surely these people must have known that we do things differently in Australia when they applied to come here?

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if expect it to some extent, and then they are facilitated by accommodationists and enablers.

Who will, of course, be dealt with in the fullness of time.

When this happens, we’ll all be racist, no?

I'll grant you clemency and forgiveness, Karnal.
You obviously have Stockholm Syndrome and PTSD from the Muzlam violence in Western Sydney schools. Cry

I taught at a few schools, all public. Afghans, Arabs, Iranians - they were all pretty tough.

But do you know? The most polite and studious ones were the religious Muslims. Girls in hijabs. Boys with their heads stuck in books.

Their parents of those students valued education highly. They weren't too different from the Chinks and Curries we've discussed.

Did you teach any of those out of control lebbo muslim boys from Lakemba High honey bunny?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138919 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #43 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:33pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:02pm: So does that mean a non muslim woman can reject being touched by a male muslim doctor?? Of course.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: You can take the woman out of Afghanistan Reply #44 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:33pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 4:02pm: So does that mean a non muslim woman can reject being touched by a male muslim doctor?? Of course. So where does it end?
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