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Reply #60 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:00pm
 
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Reply #61 - Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:11pm
 
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/what-happens-if-led-zeppelin-loses-the-st...

What Happens If Led Zeppelin Lose the 'Stairway to Heaven' Trial?


As rock fans prepare for a verdict in the copyright suit over Spirit's "Taurus," a look at some of the trial's potential longterm effects

As rock fans prepare for a verdict in the Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven" trial, a loss for Led Zep may have widespread effects on the industry.

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Robert Plant on Spirit Song: 'I Don't Remember It' »


After a brisk, colorful trial, a jury is expected to leave a Los Angeles federal courtroom Wednesday afternoon and deliberate the question every rock fan has been forced to mull over for the past week: Did Led Zeppelin lift the distinctive arpeggio that opens "Stairway to Heaven" from Spirit's 1967 instrumental "Taurus"?

The trustee for the estate of Randy Wolfe – better known as Spirit's main songwriter, Randy California – is seeking $40 million from Zeppelin, alleging that their classic rock anthem violated his copyright.

The last high-profile verdict in a copyright infringement lawsuit – a $7.4 million award against "Blurred Lines" songwriters Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams in 2015 that was later reduced to $5.3 million – generated a flurry of fretful suppositions about its effects on the music industry, copyright law and the ability of musicians to create freely.

If a jury orders Zeppelin to fork over even a fraction of what the Wolfe estate is asking, expect many more such predictions in the days to come. As rock fans prepare for the verdict, here's what might — and might not — happen if Zeppelin loses.

The Law Remains the Same

This is a jury verdict, based solely on the unique facts of the case. Unlike a judge's decision, which may offer a new interpretation of the law for future courts to take into consideration, a jury verdict sets no legal precedent. Copyright law as it exists today in the Central District of California will not change, regardless of how the jury decides. (Incidentally, this is also true of the "Blurred Lines" verdict, though ill-informed commentators continue to suggest that it somehow altered the law. Ignore them.)

A verdict for the Wolfe estate won't make it easier for anyone to prove infringement in the future. And Michael Skidmore, the estate trustee, cannot brandish this verdict at the composers of "Chim Chim Cher-ee" – or at the writers of the other 65 songs that Led Zeppelin argued sounded similar to both "Stairway to Heaven" and "Taurus" – and ask them to cough up cash. That's not how it works.

A Flood of Copycat Suits – or Not

If there's a verdict for the plaintiff – especially a hefty one – many news reports on the trial will contain two quotes. The first will predict that this unwarranted windfall will lead to a gold rush of greedy plaintiffs filing spurious copyright claims against popular musical acts. The second will declare that no such thing is going to happen. The first will come from Led Zeppelin's attorney; the latter will come from the Wolfe estate.

Lawyers don't talk to reporters because they're lonely. They have a story to tell, and they want the next jury they face to feel a certain way – either that copyright infringement verdicts are out of control or that wronged songwriters deserve their day in court. Read these quotes (and any others you encounter) in context.





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Reply #62 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:30am
 
well, that's over. the song remains the same
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Reply #63 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:53am
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36611961

Led Zeppelin cleared of plagiarism in Stairway case


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Led Zeppelin did not plagiarise the opening chords of the rock epic Stairway to Heaven from the US band Spirit, a Los Angeles jury has found.
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Reply #64 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:34am
 
And so it is - they are innocent.

It had master Light a bit dazed and confused:


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Reply #65 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:35am
 
Like I said in my earlier post, you cannot copyright a chord progression, or the harmonic structure of a piece of music.
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Reply #66 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:38am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:35am:
Like I said in my earlier post, you cannot copyright a chord progression, or the harmonic structure of a piece of music.



True - and master Light must apologise.
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Reply #67 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:04am
 
Now to set up a fund to appeal the stupid Kookaburra decision
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Reply #68 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:19am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:53am:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36611961

Led Zeppelin cleared of plagiarism in Stairway case


http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/161DC/production/_89188509_89188508.j...

Led Zeppelin did not plagiarise the opening chords of the rock epic Stairway to Heaven from the US band Spirit, a Los Angeles jury has found.



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Reply #69 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:28am
 
Duh!

They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit.

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Reply #70 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:04am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Duh!

They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit.



One can't always be sure.

It didn't go well for George Harrison.

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Reply #71 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Duh!

They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit.



One can't always be sure.

It didn't go well for George Harrison.



Lisa Jones was so sure that this Thread is full of her predictions of the outcome.
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Reply #72 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:12am
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Duh!

They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit.



One can't always be sure.

It didn't go well for George Harrison.



Lisa Jones was so sure that this Thread is full of her predictions of the outcome.


Such as this:

"How dare they steal the stairway to Heaven!"

And, this:

Other forum member: "led zep stole stairway to heaven".

Lisa: "I agree".

But now she says:

"Duh! They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit."

Caught out, once again.


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Reply #73 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:17am
 
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Caught out, once again.


Always an easy thing to do in this case.  I often see Lisa Jones complain about how people spend all their time on Forum.  She, of course, cannot do that having five children (including Hubby) to look after.  I guess they must all be away this week as Lisa Jones has not missed ONE day from dawn to after mid-night...here.
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Re: Led Zep Steals Stairway to Heaven
Reply #74 - Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:12am:
Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:04am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:28am:
Duh!

They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit.



One can't always be sure.

It didn't go well for George Harrison.



Lisa Jones was so sure that this Thread is full of her predictions of the outcome.


Such as this:

"How dare they steal the stairway to Heaven!"

And, this:

Other forum member: "led zep stole stairway to heaven".

Lisa: "I agree".

But now she says:

"Duh! They were ALWAYS going to win this law suit."

Caught out, once again.




Nongs!
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