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Reply #15 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures......


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what exactly did they do?




ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

they stopped the BOATS.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

not a good move we know!



how does that help people find jobs?


The nazi skinhead with swastika's on his face is now gainfully employed on Naru.
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Reply #16 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:43pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures......


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what exactly did they do?




ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

they stopped the BOATS.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

not a good move we know!



how does that help people find jobs?


The nazi skinhead with swastika's on his face is now gainfully employed on Naru.



ahh ... I see. That makes sense now. Thanks
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Reply #17 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures......


Quote:
what exactly did they do?




ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

they stopped the BOATS.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

not a good move we know!



how does that help people find jobs?



Cods paraphrasing Dumb dumb  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin, jesus what a retard

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Reply #18 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:22pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm:
Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?


And yet it fell see below graph

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The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Australia was worth 1454.68 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Australia represents 2.35 percent of the world economy. GDP in Australia averaged 369.19 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1560.39 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 18.60 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Australia is reported by the World Bank Group.


longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
give praise where it is due


Tones & Joe, Mal & Scott have done an excellent job of letting the economy tick along all by itself.
Thanks for keeping your hands off.



are you the only person inthe country who is NOT aware that the mining sector has driven off a cliff?  As it has globally? Giiven that it was our major exporter, where is the surprise that that affected GDP?  And since you want to be hopelessly partisan, the collapse began in the last year of Gillard. After that collapse, GDP has continued to rise.

BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!  and yet... we have not had a recession or even gotten close.  Perhaps if you thought about the information you provide first you might realise when you got it wrong.
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Reply #19 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.
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Reply #20 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:41pm
 
Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.


how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage
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Reply #21 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:59pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.


how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage

And let's eliminate unemployment entirely by sacking one million full-time employees and creating two million part-time jobs. You would be ecstatic.
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Reply #22 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm:
you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?


THIS is the kind of data that gains votes.




what exactly did they do?


Well, they (the Liberals) did pretty much the same as Labor, they just waited for the Baby Boomer Demographics to kick in.

That means the number of Australians aged 65+ will increase by some 85% from 3.1 million to 5.7 million between 2011 and 2031.

Which means approximately an extra 130,000 Per year (on average) will come into retirement age!

So, the increased number of Baby Boomer Retirees will make the Unemployment rate look better than it actually is, until the next Great Recession hits, THEN THE REAL PICTURE WILL QUICKLY BECOME APPARENT!

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Reply #23 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm:
Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?


And yet it fell see below graph

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The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Australia was worth 1454.68 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Australia represents 2.35 percent of the world economy. GDP in Australia averaged 369.19 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1560.39 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 18.60 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Australia is reported by the World Bank Group.


longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
give praise where it is due


Tones & Joe, Mal & Scott have done an excellent job of letting the economy tick along all by itself.
Thanks for keeping your hands off.



are you the only person inthe country who is NOT aware that the mining sector has driven off a cliff?  As it has globally? Giiven that it was our major exporter, where is the surprise that that affected GDP?  And since you want to be hopelessly partisan, the collapse began in the last year of Gillard. After that collapse, GDP has continued to rise.

BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!  and yet... we have not had a recession or even gotten close.  Perhaps if you thought about the information you provide first you might realise when you got it wrong.


No I am quite aware mining's ass has fallen out, however much like you refuse to acknowledge outside circumstances when anyone BUT the libs are in power, I thought I'd cover 1 eye for a day just to get your perspective.
Had Gillard been PM now, it would not be a factor in anyway shape or form.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!


It was not a commentary on the economy overall but YOUR blanket statement that it always rises under a Liberal government.
You'll also note that 2013 was our highest ever GDP, who do you thank for that, Gillard - Jan to Aug or Abbott - Oct to Dec?

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Reply #24 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:12pm
 
Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.


how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage

And let's eliminate unemployment entirely by sacking one million full-time employees and creating two million part-time jobs. You would be ecstatic.


Year nine maths, innit?

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Reply #25 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:29pm
 
Unemployment down, yay for the liberals.

What a total load of unmitigated clap trap.
Hiding unemployed through work for the dole, refusing the dole to people who have (in govco's eyes) too many liquid assets, etc etc.

Having been made redundant 10 months ago through my company going off shore, I can tell you that these "FACTS and STATS" are all doctored.

I am ineligible for the dole, because I have "Assets" that are considered above their "NEW" limits.
These new limits have affected the unemployed numbers, not the actual people who are unemployed.
I and many other Liquid Asset Rich people, are in fact UNEMPLOYED, we are looking for work, but because the work is not there we cannot find it.
We are, conveniently, not counted in these bull sh1t numbers because we are not claiming the dole.

What work there is, is part time, full time work is becoming scarcer and scarcer.
I look forward, should I score a job, at being paid at a much lower rate, simply because there is a glut of qualified people looking for work and because transitory work is all that is available.

These fabricated facts and manipulated stats are a slap in the face for working people and those desperately looking for work.
But there is one growth industry in Australia.
Government departments and sub departments are at an all time high.
Worthless bureaucrats manipulating data to fit an agenda, and trying so hard to maintain their worthless jobs.
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Reply #26 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:31pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm:
So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%.

Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook.

WELL DONE!!!!


Is the analysis of this showed the same reason it dropped the last time you posted this (about a month ago)?

the analysis was that there were few people participating in job search due to lack of jobs. 

Or are we doing the lib thing - ignore any negatives associated with libs because "they don't exist, just like lib corruption"?
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Reply #27 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 6:55pm
 
Ok I found a website analysing this.  I welcome but obviously won't happen for a lib supporter to refute the facts (but since they have no ability to do so, they will instead attack credibility instead):

The summary ABS Labour Force (seasonally adjusted) estimates for March 2016 are:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=33338
    Employment increased 26,100 (0.2 per cent) with full-time employment decreasing by 18,800 and part-time employment increasing by 34,900.
    Unemployment decreased by 7,300 to 723,100.
    The official unemployment rate decreased by 0.1 percentage points to 5.7 per cent.
    The participation rate was unchanged at 64.9 per cent. This is well below its November 2010 peak (recent) of 65.8 per cent.
    Aggregate monthly hours worked decreased 17.5 million hours (-1.1 per cent).
    The quarterly ABS broad labour underutilisation estimates (the sum of unemployment and underemployment) for the February quarter were updated last month. Underemployment was at 8.4 per cent and total labour underutilisation rate was at 14.2 per cent. There were 1,051.2 thousand persons underemployed and a total of 1.839.3 thousand workers either unemployed or underemployed. The next quarterly release will be in the June 2016 publication.

Total (net) employment in March 2016 is estimated to have increased by 26,100 jobs. Full-time employment decreased 8,800, while part-time employment increased by 34,900.

This follows the total (net) employment change in February 2016 of 300 jobs. Prior to that there were two second consecutive month of negative growth.

The ABS said that:

    Trend employment growth in Australia eased … In March 2016, the annual trend employment growth rate was 2.2 per cent, down from 2.6 per cent in December 2015 . That’s an increase of around 250,000 persons employed, compared with 300,000 persons.
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Well, any 'good news' is better than none - especially for a lib who is waiting for any straws to grasp.
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Reply #28 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm
 
So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink?

OK....
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Reply #29 - Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink?

OK....


In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week.

Good, hey?
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